Russian ships arrive in Cuba as Cold War allies strengthen their ties

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  1. The Scotsman

    The Scotsman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    here's a quick tip....unfollow all those social media tw@ts telling you this and then take a deep breath....have a glass of wine and then you'll have a chuckle at believing people that write such nonsense....:)
     
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    ...not really I don't think...I think Putin simply views the world through a different lens...his world is defined by a narrative curated out of selected historical titbits, conspiracy and self assumed victimhood carefully crafted to fit an end....he's immersed himself in a fantasy world; a sort of Game of Thrones world if you will, where he's acting the part of a Cersei Lannister and where he thinks he's cunningly manipulating the world (as he sees it) into believing that his end is justified and valid. Putin is playing a sort of Czarist role which was crafted for him by some very (in my view) unhinged people thus Putin doesn't view the world in the same way most others do. Putin simply doesn't care about anyone or anything not within the small but close collection of people orbiting his largesse.
     
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    Well, better enjoying the sun in Cuba than being sunk in the Black Sea
     
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    .....or freezing in the Baltic or the White Sea. ;)
     
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    Putin is a warning about what can happen when the leader of a major power has a worldview largely constructed of conspiracy theories. Not the first time we have seen this, but apparently we need to be reminded regularly....and even then some people don't pay attention.
     
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    ...couldn't agree more. With all the money that was being flashed around back in the day it was so easy for all sorts of people and institutions to get caught up in and under the thrall of the oligarchs and the lifestyle they could offer. Not surprisingly there were so many willing participants all queuing up to be part of the Kremlin controlled largesse...
     
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    How do you know it's nonsense?
     
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    Putin sounds like the kind of person who might resort to using nukes. :nod:
     
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    Russia is a financially troubled country, so Putin resorts to his only strength- military might.
     
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    ....okay...just stop for a moment and pour that glass of wine...do you like red or white? don't worry about the time difference it's Friday evening here so it's okay....let's pretend we're down at the Spyglass and Scotland are playing Germany in the opening match of Euro 2024 and everyone's got a beer (and we'll pretend the score isn't 2-0 to bloody Germany).....so....why would he use one.....what is the point of using a nuclear weapon....what type of nuclear weapon would be used...a big one a small one....and what is achieved by it's use.....that's what you have to game out.....what possible use would be achieved? And, what are the ramifications of it's use.

    :)
     
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    So, if Ukrainian fishing tourists decided to visit a place like Navassa Island, could their styrofoam drones visit the Russian fleet in "Havana ooh na-na"? ;-)
     
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    .....it just is....let's have a wee think about it....
     
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    Nuclear Armageddon is what the American evangelists are pushing. If bush was still in charge it would be nuclear war right now. Luckily we have a man that couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag in charge of the button.
     
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    You must mean Pootler?:).
     
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    Putin will obliterate USA and europe. We shouldn't push him
     
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    .....4-0.....and doon tae 10 bloody men.....and dinna be s'a daft th'a noo......mine's a Stella.....:rolleyes:......
     
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    Where was Ben doak!?
     
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    ....at the pub if the boy's got any sense.....5 f**kin 1.....jeezuz what a night
     
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    Oh well, get that Glenfiddich down ya hatch boyo
     
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    What you're describing would also result in a Russian obliteration too. As for "pushing him", I'm in agreement with NATO, that you cannot let him get away with crossing borders and attacking other countries.
     
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    No, he doesn't. He wants a strong Russia, not a nuclear wasteland.
     
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    you do know that Russia is twice as big as USA and has twice as many nukes?

    So Putin is taking new land that formerly belonged to him. Are you willing to give back land you have stolen? Where do we draw the line? Should Jewish ppl give west bank back? These are not Whataboutism, I'm just trying to understand why you believe Russia is unique in it's so called land theft
     
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    apparently
    Strong leaders will be ready to launch nukes and kill millions of women and children.

    Thats what the party leaders all tell you come election time. I'm ready to push the button. Apparently it's a good vote winner
     
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    The land didn't formerly belong to Russia but it's more complicated than that. The people of the land Russia has invaded are split between Russian and Ukrainian.

    There is a meeting taking place right now to discuss peace. Russia are not attending. Putin has stated that he would end his side of the war if allowed to keep what they have right now. Obviously that cannot be accepted but does open negotiations.

    On day one of this war I posted that the only way I see the war ending is if the land in the region of the Russian/Ukrainian border was declared neutral. That I believe could be the outcome. A million lives could have been saved
     
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