Russian special military operation

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  1. Valery Staricov

    Valery Staricov Member

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    Biden today is an incapacitated president who can start World War 3 foolishly. But today Biden does not decide anything, is his entourage decides everything. Probably, this entourage took away of the nuclear button from Biden. It cannot trust a nuclear button to an incapacitated person. But, the question arises, which of the American government will be responsible for the start of World War 3?
     
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    It looks like the repubs are hesitant in their support for Ukraine.

    A few months ago, Secretary of Defence Austin declared that Russia should be thoroughly defeated so that it would never again be a threat to world peace.
    A few days ago, General Milley stated that it would not be possible to push Russian out of Crimea in the near future. That is considered to be a weakening of the US resolve to fully support Ukraine until it fully recovers its territory, including Crimea.

    It is essential to kick the Russians out of Crimea, so that it will no longer control the sea of Azov and the strategic harbor of Sebastopol.

    I call on everyone to call their congresswoman and congressman to demand the continuation and, if possible, the increase of all possible US support to Ukraine, until its total victory over Russia.
     
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    Let them try to defeat Russia in the war. Russia will destroy its opponents with help of nuclear weapons. The fact that the Americans began to hesitate whether to support Ukraine is good. So money, mercenaries and weapons to support Ukraine are running out to finish at Americans. And Russia has money, mobilized soldiers and weapons for the war to the victorious end, until the unconditional surrender of Ukraine. If the Americans want to send a Polish army to Ukraine, then the Russian army will reach before Warsaw.
     
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    And in news today another milestone has just been passed. Oryx is reporting that as of this moment 1500 Russian Tanks have been firmed destroyed, captured damaged or abandoned by the Russian Army. This adds to the total of just over 8000 other other military vehicles lost by Russia since the war began. A special shout has to go of course to the Russian servicemen who have so generously donated their vehicles to the Ukrainian war effort. As of this date that amounts to no less than;

    a) 521 tanks, (b)243 armored fighting vehicles and (c) 553 infantry fighting vehicles

    In total more than 2600 military vehicles of all types have been donated to Ukraine. Keep up the good work chaps.
     
  5. Valery Staricov

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    The Russian Ministry of Defense does not report the number of losses of Russian military equipment. It's a military secret. The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense reports false information about the losses of the Russian army and cannot be believed.
    But the Russian Ministry of Defense reports the exact number of losses in the equipment of the Ukrainian army on November 19, 2022:
    333 aircraft, 177 helicopters, 2532 drones, 388 anti-aircraft missile systems, 6705 tanks and armored fighting vehicles, 897 multiple launch rocket systems, 3599 field artillery guns and mortars, 7273 vehicles.
     
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    Retired Colonel of the American Army Douglas McGregor said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are suffering huge losses. According to him, the Ukrainian army lost more than one100000 killed people, reports Grayzone.
    They lost more than one hundred thousand killed and hundreds of thousands wounded. A huge amount of equipment was lost, destroyed, stolen. They are now on their last legs. They have nothing to offer. They are waiting for a crushing blow to be inflicted on them, which will crush them, "the retired colonel emphasized.

    For comparison: of the loss of the Russian army on September 21, - 5937 people. Shoigu did not provide information on the wounded people, but based on the ratio of dead to wounded as 1 to 3, their number should be about 18-20 thousand.

    Earlier, the commander of the joint group of Russian troops, Sergei Surovikin, in a report to Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, said that in the period from August to October, the Ukrainian army lost over 12 thousand troops, 9.5 thousand of them were killed in the Kherson direction. According to Surovikin, Russian losses in the Kherson direction were 7-8 times less than those of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
     
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    You need to check the Oryx web site. They don't report claims made by the Ukrainian Government. Their stats for vehicle losses are based purely on independently verifiable evidence i.e photographic images of weapon systems that have been geo-located and visually confirmed by type/model number etc.

    From their website ' this list only includes destroyed vehicles and equipment of which photo or videographic evidence is available. Therefore, the amount of equipment destroyed is significantly higher than recorded here. Small arms, ATGMs, MANPADS, loitering munitions, drones used as unmanned bait, civilian vehicles, trailers and derelict equipment are not included in this list. All possible effort has gone into avoiding duplicate entries and discerning the status of equipment between captured or abandoned. Many of the entries listed as 'abandoned' will likely end up captured or destroyed. Similarly, some of the captured equipment might be destroyed if it can't be recovered. When the origin of a piece of equipment can't be established, it is not included in the list. The Soviet flag is used when the equipment in question was produced prior to 1991. This list is constantly updated as additional footage becomes available.'

    They also maintain a separate list of Ukrainian equipment losses that are independently verified in a similar fashion. They specifically DO NOT rely on claims made by the Governments of either side of this conflict. The list for Ukrainian equipment losses is much smaller not because they are withholding data but because given most such losses are by default on the Russian side of the conflict line they cannot independently verify them.

    Because of the efforts they make to remove duplicate claims and their determination to rely on only open source evidence and not official government figures the website's claims about loss rates are regarded as the best available and most accurate figures available to the general public.

    Deal with that as you will.
     
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    1) Grayzone; a far left website noted for promoting conspiracy theories and far left propaganda.

    2) 100,000 killed? That equate to ONE million casualties given the conventional military calculation that for every 1 death there are 10 wounded. Given the Ukrainian army had approximately 200,000 full time members as of the start of the war. If those (BS) figures were to be believed Russia has somehow miraculously manged to kill or injure the professional Ukrainian army 5 times over :roflol:! And somehow it yet still hasn't managed to occupy Kiev or end the war!

    Care to explain that?
     
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  9. Valery Staricov

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    I do not believe Western and Ukrainian publications, because they lie. I believe only the Ministry of Defense of Russia. You do not worry about Russian tanks. There are many tanks in warehouses in Russia. Uralvagonzavod works in 3 shifts today, will still produce many new tanks.
     
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    Your calculations are not accurate, there are 3 wounded per 1 killed. At the beginning of the war, the Ukrainian army had 200,000 soldiers, then Ukraine carried out a general mobilization, after which the Ukrainian army became from 700,000 to 1 million soldiers. Superiority in the infantry and allowed to the Ukrainian army to advance. There were 150000-200000 soldiers in the Russian army at the beginning of the war. With the help of partial mobilization, 318,000 soldiers were drafted into the Russian army. When all mobilized Russian soldiers arrive at the front, the Russian army will begin an attack on Ukraine. It will be in the near future. Losses killed in the Russian army of about 8,000 soldiers. Ukrainian soldiers refuse to go on suicide attacks, therefore Barrier troops from the Nazis were introduced in the Ukrainian army, which shoot of deserters in front of the ranks. The Ukrainian army throws wounded and killed on the battlefield that not to pay benefits to the family of the killed soldier. Ukrainian soldiers are buried by Russian soldiers, wounded Ukrainian soldiers who have been captured are treated by Russian doctors. Ukrainian soldiers shoot Russian prisoners.Therefore, the Ministry of Defense of the Ukrainian army does not know and does not want to know the size of losses in the Ukrainian army.
     
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    That may be the ratio in the Russian armed forces (God Help them if so) but modern Western Armies in general use the 10:1 ratio as a rough guideline during major conventional wars. This is because the 10:1 includes ALL soldiers who require medical treatment and are combat ineffective until such time as they receive it. As such the ratio doesn't just reflect combat deaths and injuries. It includes losses due to illness, accidents or POWs. So say for example a soldier gets up to take a piss in the middle of the night and then falls into a fox hole on the way back to his position. If he breaks his wrist and cant fight? Congratulations he becomes a casualty of the war. Same thing applies if he gets a bad case of the runs from living in unhygienic field conditions for too long. Historically in large scale wars wars often more casualties are due to illness and accidents than combat.
     
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    IOW, you "know that Biden is a very dangerous President." IMO, by now Biden's staff are as afraid of him as Putin should be.
    Most of Russia's major setbacks at least over the last decade can be traced directly to decisive actions taken by Joe Biden and his team of close associates.
     
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    All totalitarian thinking is similar and delusional. Hitler actually thought the Jews were the master race.


    "The delusion of an already existing Jewish world domination formed the basis
    for the illusion of future German world domination. This was what Himmler had in mind
    when he stated that "we owe the art of government to the Jews," namely, to the
    Protocols which "the Fuhrer [had] learned by heart." 50 Thus the Protocols
    presented world conquest as a practical possibility, implied that the whole
    affair was only a question of inspired or shrewd know-how, and that nobody
    stood in the way of a German victory over the entire world but a patently small
    people, the Jews, who ruled it without possessing instruments of violence — an easy
    opponent, therefore, once their secret was discovered and their method emulated on a larger scale. "
    THE ORIGINS OF TOTALITARIANISM, By Hannah Arendt, Meridian Books,New York, 1958.
    https://archive.org/stream/TheOriginsOfTotalitarianism/The-Origins-of-Totalitarianism_djvu.txt
     
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    A Western soldier, in particular, an American soldier - coddled and weak as a woman, he refuses to go into battle because of a runny nose or trifle scratch. The Russian soldier is tempered and courageous as a beast, he does not pay attention to the cold and never gets sick from the cold. How will an American soldier fight in the cold winter in Ukraine? General Frost has already come to the rescue of a Russian soldier in Ukraine. American tanks will not start up again in the cold like German tanks near Moscow. The Americans freeze before death in Ukraine, as the Germans froze to death near Stalingrad. Why then did the Americans start a war against Russia in Ukraine? An American soldier went to the toilet at night and fell into a cesspool - this is an anecdote.
     
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    Biden is led by the hand so that Biden is not lost in his garden. Biden falls on the stairs into the plane due to a gust of wind. Biden underwent brain surgery for an aneurysm twice in the late eighties. Biden is sick with Senile dementia. Biden is dangerous because of his Senile dementia. Biden can unleash a nuclear war between the United States and Russia because of his Senile dementia. Russians doubt that Biden will live to see the end of the first presidential term, and Biden still wants to be re-elected for a second term! It's a disgrace.
     
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    All of Russia is laughing at Biden today. Biden forgets or confuses the names of countries and cities, Biden cannot find a exit of the rostrum,
     
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    I used book of Hannah Arend "The origins of Totalitarianism" in a my paragraph about the essence of totalitarianism in my Russian edition of the textbook "Interesting Social Studies." I shortened this quote and the mention about Hannah Arend in my English edition of my textbook, because Hannah Arend does not have enough authority in the political sciences. I reduced my English textbook by half compared to the Russian textbook to reduce translation time.
     
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    You obviously cant comprehend basic English. As I clearly noted in my previous post: 'the 10:1 includes ALL soldiers who require medical treatment and are combat ineffective until they receive it.' Note the underlined words.

    An injury, illness or other medical issue is either severe enough to render a soldier combat ineffective or it isn't. It's a simple binary decision, yes or no, end of story. Surely even you can understand that.

    For the rest? Perhaps as Russia continues to retreat you can keep yourself warm at night with self righteous BS about how much 'tougher' Russian soldiers are than any other. But that doesn't explain while all those 'tough' soldiers keep advancing rearwards' in Ukraine, why 500,000 Russian men have already fled Russian to avoid the draft or why Russia has to recruit rapists, thieves and murderers from jail just to try and fill the gaps in its ranks.
     
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    I understand English well. I studied English for more than 50 years, first at school, then at a technical school, then at a university, I spent 7 years to translate my textbook (400 pages) into English. I translate texts well from Russian into English and back again, but I've never been abroad, I immersed myself in an English-speaking language environment never, therefore I can't speak English and don't understand English well by ear. My texts can be easily translated into English because I have a clear, interesting and laconic style of writing.

    In Russia, the soldier who received a bullet, shrapnel wound or concussion of the brain is considered wounded. Soldiers in Russia do not get sick in the war and soldiers are effective in battle in the event of other diseases.
    Russia will no longer retreat in the near future, Russia will only advance with the arrival of 318,000 reservists. Reservists who escaped from Russia are traitors who will be imprisoned in Russia for refusing to appear at the draft point on the agenda. В России всегда были штрафные батальоны для дезертиров и преступников. Кстати, группа Вагнера - это сегодня самая эффективная воинская часть, состоящая из российских наёмников. Пусть преступники применяют свою агрессию на благо Родине. Украинцы обливают грязью группу Вагнера, потому что украинцы боятся группу Вагнера.
     
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    Assuming you believe all that, what does it say about the competence of Putin and Russia's high command?
     
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    I see. ;-)
     
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    Putin started a war against the whole West. It was a difficult decision. None of the world leaders managed to win such a war. But Putin had no other option, Russia was pressed against the wall and there was nowhere to retreat further. Russia all its history responds on difficult challenges and invasions of superior enemy forces. Putin is waging this war against the West competently and effectively. The West promised that it would tear Russia's economy to shreds. The West imposed economic sanctions, that is, a blockade against Russia. The West "froze," that is, in fact, stole Russian money raised for the sale of oil and gas. Putin answered quite competently. Putin forced Western countries to pay for oil and gas in rubles, which completely eliminates the possibility of stealing Russian money, and for those who refused to pay in rubles, Putin turned off the gas. In response to the blockade from the West, Putin intensified trade with friends in the East - with China, India and other BRICS countries, Saudi Arabia, with Belarus. As a result of Putin's policy, the economic situation in Russia turned out to be better than in the USA and Western Europe. Inflation in Russia is minimal, the ruble exchange rate against the dollar today after 9 months of war is 63 rubles per $1, an excellent rate! And the West promised us 200 rubles per dollar.
    Putin has appointed a completely competent commander-in-chief of the operation in Ukraine, Surovikin. Surovikin made the right decision to withdraw troops from Kherson in order to withdraw troops under threat of encirclement. I doubt in the competence of Shoigu and Gerasimov, but today a completely competent Surovikin is responsible for the operation. Putin made a somewhat belated decision to start partial mobilization. This was a difficult but inevitable decision because the ratio of infantry between Russians and Ukrainians was 1 in 4 before the partial mobilization began, therefore the Russians began to retreat from Kyiv, Kharkov and Kherson. Today, the Russian retreat in Ukraine is over, powerful lines of defense have been built at the front. There is a small offensive of the Wagner group near Bakhmut. The Russian army is preparing for a big offensive in Ukraine. Putin made a completely competent decision to destroy power plants in Ukraine in order to leave Ukrainians without electricity, water, heat supply, sewage and communication in winter. The energy system of Ukraine is destroyed by 40%. It is difficult to supply the Ukrainian army with Western weapons. Putin is being asked to destroy bridges and railway stations in Ukraine to further hamper the supply of Ukrainian troops, but Putin slows with this decision, apparently thinking that rebuilding of bridges across the Dnieper would be too expensive for Russia after the Russian victory. Ukraine's defense and fuel industries have already been destroyed by Russian missiles and drones. This is what the Americans did during the war in Yugoslavia - they attacked infrastructure - power plants, bridges and the Ministry of Defense. Putin is still slow with blows to decision-making places - on President Zelensky, on Zaluzhny and the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine in Kyiv. Apparently, Putin believes that in the event of the destruction of Zelensky and Zaluzhny, there will be no one to sign the unconditional surrender. In addition, all important decisions in Ukraine are made not by Zelensky and Zaluzhny, but by American advisers, and Zelensky is just a clown, and Zaluzhny is a puppet. Putin forbade the West to send its troops into Ukraine under the threat of using nuclear weapons. The West is still afraid to supply Ukraine with its modern tanks, aircraft and long-range missiles capable of hitting targets in Russia. The West so far uses only mercenaries in Russia. It was Putin's competent decision to blackmail of the West with help of nuclear weapons. In addition, Russia will fly hypersonic weapons tested on the territory of Ukraine. And the West does not yet have hypersonic weapons, the West has lagged behind Russia in this matter, the West is defenseless against Russian hypersonic weapons.
    It can be concluded that Putin and Surovikin make quite competent decisions.
     
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    I want to ask, what is the quality of my translation? Do Americans understand me? How many mistakes do I make in translation into English? I never communicated with the Americans personally and they are like aliens to me.
     
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    I can understand just fine. Almost everyone replying didn't even know where Ukraine was on a map until February and the 'partizan' is a Banderite. This you should know....most Americans are ignorant of the history in "the ukraine" and Russia. They only believe what the US government tells them, which is usually fake news.
     

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