Safe and effective, hey?

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  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    The stunning irony! It's easier to spam the same inane one-liner than to actually answer any posts properly!
     
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    I reckon sacrificing a few Myocarditus deaths in order to save thousands more is what they consider worth the risk. The jab saved more than it hurt and much less deaths than covid infected. People just shouldn't be forced to take any jab. I would sue to if I was one of the very few who got unlucky.
     
  3. UntilNextTime

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    I wonder why the OP ignores every piece of rebuttal!
    Vaccines - perfectly safe. Antivaxers - do you have the capacity to understand this?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it's like saying "you said a glass of water was safe", then pointing to all the people that choked on a glass of water
     
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    I seriously wonder what motivates an antivaxer to post without bothering to check a damn thing! Firstly the "new" study is from:
    RESEARCH ARTICLE Originally Published 6 December 2021
    And does it suggest this lying 98%? Or has the deceptive website "misread" it!

    For starters the damn paper is EXCLUSIVELY looking at incidences of myocarditis! These are extremely rare. The paper found 139 people for their study! When we consider that the damn vaccine had a few billion doses that is hardly extreme.

    "We report on 139 adolescents and young adults with 140 episodes of suspected myocarditis (49 confirmed, 91 probable) at 26 centers. Most patients were male (n=126, 90.6%) and White (n=92, 66.2%); 29 (20.9%) were Hispanic; and the median age was 15.8 years (range, 12.1–20.3; interquartile range [IQR], 14.5–17.0). Suspected myocarditis occurred in 136 patients (97.8%) after the mRNA vaccine, with 131 (94.2%) after the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine; 128 (91.4%) occurred after the second dose."

    That states that myocarditis was suspected in that small number of patients after the vaccine. The study makes ZERO conclusion that the cause was the vaccine! The lying antivax website entraps those gullible enough not to check up on their deception.

    "Conclusions:
    Most cases of suspected COVID-19 vaccine myocarditis occurring in persons <21 years have a mild clinical course with rapid resolution of symptoms. Abnormal findings on cardiac MRI were frequent. Future studies should evaluate risk factors, mechanisms, and long-term outcomes."

    Basically the study was just a short analysis showing pretty much nothing. But once it hits the internet, the dishonest antivax propaganda machine twists and lies.
     
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  7. UntilNextTime

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    Those who have taken the covid shot would know the saying, "Live by the sword, die by the sword".
     
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    Those who make antivax noise need to know the phrase, it's not polite to ignore inconvenient posts that destroy your claims!
     
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    Mike Rowe on the video above regarding "Safe & Effective"
     
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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    And the pseudo-scientists are scratching their heads in wonder what is causing it all.
     
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    ‘Emergency no longer exists’: Doctors call for Covid vaccines to be pulled to reassess safety
    A petition calling for Covid vaccines to be pulled has attracted high-profile backers — including one of Donald Trump’s key appointments.

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/h...y/news-story/1bfd89ce40c2e07256a6620d22a1d63a

    It just gets safer and more effective!
     
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    Omg not bloody Fraiman! This crap has been done to death!
     
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    Apparently note. Hopefully Dr Bhattacharya will be able to bring some honesty to the evaluation of these vaccines with regard to the adverse reactions issue as a result of insufficient testing before an emergency use authorization was issued.
     
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    You don't have to "pull" the vaccines to assess their effectiveness. Another of Trump's anti-vaxxer types at work.
     
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    One must pull the shots if one's job is to enforce the law. By definition under 18USC175 and numerous state statutes including 790.166 in Florida, the shots are bioweapons. Despite Florida's Surgeon General stating more than a year ago that the shots were dangerous, the dimwit Gov. "Bibi" DeSantis refuses to enforce the law, and that strongly suggests he does not care about the public health in Florida, but he does care about the profits of Big Pharma. In turning down months long efforts to get a Writ Of Mandamus, DeSantis refuses to do his job. He has more important masters to serve than the people of Florida.
     
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    You would deny people the right to decide whether or not to get the shots?
    Florida has a lot of old people who have doctors advising them to get vaccinated. DeSantis doesn't have a political death wish.
     
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    ~ Last time I was at pharmacy there was a kindly old gentleman patiently waiting for the latest and greatest Covid-19 shot — while wearing a surgical mask ... :disbelief:"

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    And if the above data were adjusted for any or more of the CDC defined preconditions the percentages for the younger age groups would be ~ 100X less.
     
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    So, you think getting a covid shot to prevent cut a 5% chance of dying is a dumb idea?
     
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    It would depend on what preconditions were present in a person aged 70 years or older.
     
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    Look man, your questions and claims have always been silly, so I'm not surprised. No sir, I don't deny people any rights at all. I don't deny them the right to commit suicide.

    For the simple mind: prohibiting bioweapons by statute is a logical step to protect public health. You conveniently overlook the fact that humans do stupid things, especially when the herd mentality is in play. If any individual wants to commit suicide there are many ways to do that. Further, the shots were forced on many people. Not all, but many.

    You haven't noticed sir, but "the doctors" were wrong to the point of criminality. They did not comply with "informed consent" (which is a law you are ignorant of) and they did not comply with the Hippocratic Oath. You might say that the majority of the medical profession, driven by $ and greed, displayed their own sort of herd mentality in pushing the bioweapons.
     
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    Denial & lack of critical thinking is in the ignorant's toolkit.
     
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    You can always skip over the topic, or is that beyond you?
     
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    No, you don't. You just need to put those who want the shots in front of the line.
     
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    Isn't it incredible for many not to be able to conceive the idea?

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