Serbs destroyed Yugoslavia - The Death of Yugoslavia

Kosovo pretext was created when Tito gave albanian autonomy in the region during communist times. He did it because he had conflict with communist leader enver Hoxha on illegal albanian immigration into Yugoslavia.

 

Thanks AGS for important background data on Albania.

 

You do not need to thank me, you should be ashamed of being part of genocidal nation called servs.... You can not compare animal , ex-servian animal called Milose(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) with Napoleon.... Napoleon had moral virtues while Milose(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) was a prototype of servs --- immoral creatures with delusional, psychopatic and in some cases animal instincts....

 

What a load of bull(*)(*)(*)(*) ...
The concept of the bad nations is wrong ,what can be said about you who converted to islam just to stop paying taxes ?
If the Serbs are "genocidal" why you are still around?

 

Lena,

Do not waste any time with DaVinci. Its Nov, 2012. Last year Libya was bombed and this year the American embassy had been bombed by Islamic extremists claiming to retaliate because of a youtube video portrayal of Prophet Mohammed. So many things have happened and not to mention a coming election this weekend.

I have some Croatian in me and I do not like Milosevic but these Albanians are so annoying and irritating especially when they have to add Croatia along with their worthless debates and arguments to prop up their cause for their political agenda.

Davinici is not looking for a fair debate or any type of OBJECTIVE DEBATE.

His/Her purpose has been just to irritate, annoy, and attack a certain ethnic group of his/her prejudice (namely the Serbs) to satisfy their inner hatred of the group disguising as a DEBATE.

You will hear repititious accusations throughout his/her dialogue and they are not positive. The same mumbo jumbo. And they will only focus on the bad side of the opposing side and neglect the faults of their own which they will never mention or want to know. Therefore, its a worthless debate...

How many years have passed? Last time I had a dialogue with Davinici seems like a million years ago in jurassic park...And this dinosaur called Davinici is still alive?

Do not even answer to his debates....

that will frustrate him or her.

 

You're right, AGS We should be creative, not destructive.

 

What the (*)(*)(*)(*) is this? Eurovision? The content of your post and your signature provide a hilarious contrast, I hope DaVinci isn't the sole motivation for it.

 

Eurovision is so last century, same as is conflict between Croats and Serbs. Croatia-12 points
It is not my sig nor my post which bothers you...Kosovo? It's obviously Serbia:
http://www.un.org/en/members/index.shtml

 

Its not your signature alone that bothers me. If you want to be creative and not destructive, you can't be selective. I'm sick of people BSing about how all they want is peace but when it comes down to it that's never true.

 

I think they are responsible for clima change too.

 

Republic of Croatia recognized the Republic of Kosova It is quite important and something you should be aware of.
Now, people who are hybrids(mixed ethnicity), like your case , are the worst kind since they seem to suffer from identity complexes....

But, me providing undisputed proofs and sources regarding break up of Yugoslavia, within this thread should be more than enough to make it quite clear to everyone WHO is responsible for the bloodshed in ex-YU..... those who incited wars in order of occupying other lands(servs) or those who defended all the time(Croats, Bosniaks, Albanians..) !

 

I almost forgot, this comment of mine was a response to the last comment from AGS !

 

Regarding the BBC DEATH OF YUGOSLAVIA video:
They only gave the image of getting to the truth of what happened.

When Milosovich met with the Serbs in Kosovo, he offered to correct an unjust situation being maintained against Serbs. BBC ignored Milosovich's apparent attempt to establich Justice, Mercy, Truth and Faith in Kosovo as valid. They didn't criticize him on his intent or actions in this regard. They just branded it all as Trotsky would: "nationalism"

It wasn't the Serbs who destroyed Yugoslavia, so much as it was the CIA/Mossad/HATO gang working behind the scenes and in plain view.

The USA "...specifically targeted the Yugoslav economy in a Secret Sensitive 1984 National Security Decision Directive (NSDD 133), "U.S. Policy towards Yugoslavia." A censored version declassified in 1990 elaborated on NSDD 54 on Eastern Europe, issued in 1982. The latter advocated "expanded efforts to promote a 'quiet revolution' to overthrow Communist governments and parties," while reintegrating the countries of Eastern Europe into a market-oriented economy."

Yugoslav army chief Veljko Kadijević declared that there was a conspiracy to destroy the country, saying:

"An insidious plan has been drawn up to destroy Yugoslavia. Stage one is civil war. Stage two is foreign intervention. Then puppet regimes will be set up throughout Yugoslavia." Veljko Kadijević, 12 March 1991.[32]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakup_of_Yugoslavia
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One of the purposes of the various HATO tragedys in Yugoslavia was a practice run on createing "Islamic" revolutions. Both Bosnia & Kosovo were training grounds for their "Arab Spring" garbage that the USA continues to fully support.

 

The worst part of this all was NATO trying to enforce their naive idealistic values on everyone with their superior military might.

 

You are making threads with racist, insulting and vulgar insults. Why are you trying to provoke anger or create an atmosphere of hostility? Can you construct a valid debate from the last 5 years? Apparently Not. You post trivial articles and write insinuating comments.

 

Yea but you cannot deny the atrocities committed by the Serbs. Even if Islamic training grounds did happen, the Serb military had full responsibility not to target civilians. For instance the Srebrenica cleansing could have been avoided by capturing the prisoners and putting them in detainment prison camps and released at a later date.

Basically the war could have been avoided. They could have all broke yugoslavia apart settling the monetary corruption from the 70s and 80s. And they could have settled the population ethnic mix as well.

If people can put a man in the moon, they could do the above.

 

This thread created by me, backed up with reliable sources, exclusively foreign ones, including those from servia, should be more than enough to make it crystal clear who were the responsible ones for inciting bloodshed all over ex -YU.
servia as a genocidal creation pursuit the policy of ethnic cleansing of other nations in order of expanding its territories.
You can not put an equal sign between the aggressor and the victim.

But as I said, hybrid cases like your case(others too) are the worst ones, since identity complexes oscillate and cause disturbance periodically....one moment inside of you can awoke that half part of other nation, the next one, the other one....

 

I am not talking about the topic of the forum. I am talking about the threads you created from the past and I reported it. They were all deleted. Can you remember them ?

Or do you have amnesia?

LOL.

By the way, independence is useless. If a country becomes a member of the EU, they have to dissolve their soveriegnty. So you can be independent in paper but you don't have the power to control your borders.

Why don't you research on google the pros and cons of EU membership?

Switzerland and Norway are only countries not members of the EU.

Germany also committed Genocide with Jews so Genocide is not a unique topic.

Yugoslavia was created by US president Wilson 14 points. They created serboslavia.

LOL

 

THE HAGUE, Netherlands — A U.N. war crimes court convicted a former senior Bosnian serv army commander Wednesday of genocide for playing a key role in Europe's worst massacre since World War II and sentenced him to life imprisonment, delivering another measure of justice to survivors still hunting for the remains of their husbands and sons.

In a majority ruling, a three-judge panel at the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal said Gen. Zdravko Tolimir was the "right hand" of Bosnian serv military chief Gen. Ratko Mladic, who is considered the chief architect of the murder of some 8,000 Muslim men and boys at the Srebrenica enclave in eastern Bosnia in July 1995.

"The accused not only had knowledge of genocidal intent of others but also possessed it himself," Presiding Judge Christoph Fluegge said. "He is therefore responsible for the crime of genocide."

Women who lost their menfolk in the massacre traveled to The Hague to watch the judgment and were pleased with the latest conviction.

"Finally we witnessed a small bit of justice," said Munira Subasic, leader of a group called the Mothers of Srebrenica. "We are still alive to witness it and we are still searching for the bones of our sons."

Tolimir stood, crossed himself three times and removed his glasses but showed no emotion as Fluegge told him he had been convicted of genocide and would spend the rest of his life in prison.

Before the judgment was read, he told the court: "I wish for these proceedings to be concluded in accordance with God's will."

Tolimir, 64, is the latest serv soldier to be convicted of genocide in the bloody climax of Bosnia's 1992-95 war that left around 100,000 dead. He was found guilty of seven charges of genocide, crimes against humanity and the war crime of murder. He was acquitted of one count of deportation.

The judgment shed little new light on the overall mechanics of the massacre, which are already well known, but highlighted chilling details of the murders.

Some of the wounded prisoners were cursed and left to suffer in agony before they were finally killed," Fluegge said. "One of the groups of prisoners included a boy of approximately five to six years old, who, after being shot at, stood up from the pile of bodies and called out for his father."

Mladic and his political master Radovan Karadzic are still on trial for overseeing serv atrocities throughout the Bosnian war, including the Srebrenica massacre.

Tolimir was the top Bosnian Serb intelligence officer and a trusted aide of Mladic. Witnesses called him Mladic's "right hand. His eyes and ears," Fluegge said. Tolimir had, Fluegge added, "full knowledge of the despicable criminal operations" of Bosnian Serb forces that carried out the massacre.

Bosnian serv forces overran Srebrenica in 1995, despite the presence of Dutch United Nations peacekeepers who were outgunned and outnumbered, and who put up virtually no resistance. The Bosnian Serb forces later took over another U.N. protected enclave in the nearby town of Zepa.

Women were bused away from the area before the Muslim men and boys were rounded up, taken to remote locations around the town and executed. Their bodies were then plowed into mass graves.

"The suffering these men went through in the moments leading up to their deaths must have been unbearable. On many occasions those waiting to be shot saw others executed," Fluegge said.

The judges also reflected on the genocide's effect on those who survived it, noting "the extreme suffering of the approximately 30,000-35,000 women and children forcibly removed from both enclaves, and their inability to live a normal and constructive life to this day."

Srebrenica widow Rejha Avdic, 50, who lost her husband in the massacre, said she was satisfied after watching the verdict on a television in the office of the Association of Srebrenica Survivors in Tuzla.

"This is what we expected and we feel better now," she said. "We hope the court will continue to conduct fair trials."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/12/zdravko-tolimir-convicted-genocide_n_2285210.html

 

You have a very narrow mind.

I can create your logical mind map.

If anyone agrees with a position from the Serbs, you automatically draw a conclusion that these people are either Serbs or enemy of Albanians. Am I right?

You write bogus statements about sex issues and this is a political forum and not a porn site. So I am going to report you on those statements.

One other thing. Genetically speaking, Croatians, Bosnians, and half of Serbs are proto-semitic and not indo-european slavic.

You can confirm this information with Eupedia and National Geographic. Languages does not designate an individuals ethnicity because people either adopt language from warfare (being conquered), economic progression (immigration), or religious conversion.

Being proto-semitic, they have SNP correlations with Jews and Arabs. Cro-magnon man was proto-semitic that migrated into Europe from the middle east more then 45,000-35,000 years ago. They confronted neanderthals before the Indo-Europeans who originated from Central Asia.

Goth tribes from southern sweden are proto-semitic while the norwegians are indo-european.

So europe has alot of diversity of people.

 

The OP is probably not a Balkanian since he fails to understand how the things work in the peninsula

 

I can deny "the atrocities" that Serbs are accused of, because the chief accusers are liars, and are of the Sinogog of God's & mankind's adversaries that attacked Serbia from the inside and the outside, committing many many atrocities in the process of their evil intentions & actions.

Perhaps the war and chaos could have been reduced or avoided via wiser actions of the Serbian, despite the fact that the USA, EU, HATO, Saudis & Israelis had been attacking Yugoslavia before and during the trouble.

No European or American can lawfully criticize Serbia, because the hands of the Europeans and Americans have most the bloody malicious guilt, continue their cruel, vicious actions to today, as in Libya & Syria and show zero signs of repentance.
Kuzma (Kozma) Minin and Dmitry Mikhaylovich Pozharsky
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Bombing of Dubrovnik? The Serbs ordered the bombing of a tourist attraction not even a military strategy.

Invasion of Vukovar? Why did they have to send tanks to Croatia and Slovenia?

Srebrenica?


Yes I definitely disagree with Nato bombing of Beograd.

What about Srebrenica?

 

So tell us your view of what happened at Srebrenica.

From what I've learned and seen in the unending stream of US wars since at least 1849, is a non stop stream of lies and false flag stunts to demonize the intended victims. And Yugoslavia did not escape the standard US policy:

"We are not fighting against enemy armies, but against an enemy people, both young and old, rich and poor, and they must feel the iron hand of war in the same way as organized armies."

From killing Mexicans and Indians, to many countries to Libya and Syria, nothing has changed.
[video=youtube;F3_EXqJ8f-0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_EXqJ8f-0 [/video]

 

The post is not about the corrupt US system of unending war. You can find this phenomenon on all of the european imperial dynasties.

Our dialogue has been a discussion about the Serbs invading Vukovar, bombing Dubrovnik, and the Srebrenica Genocide.

The US did not invade Vukovar. The US did not bomb Dubrovnik. And the US did not make the Srebrenica Genocide.