Should Palestinians Really Stay In Their Cage And Die?

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  1. Tipper101

    Tipper101 Banned

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    So you epic fail to justify why Palestinians should not be allowed to leave to escape genocide and are falling back to ranting about things I haven’t even said. Lol! You’re the gift basket of incoherency i absolutely love about Hamas supporters
     
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    I don't doubt that there are many things that are "incoherent" to you with Middle Eastern history being among the foremost.

    It is apparently "incoherent" to you that the most effective way to stop genocide is to defang the genocidal miscreants doing the mass murdering, not appease the killers by deporting their victims who will never be allowed to return.

    Most of the planet has learned that appeasement doesn't work against genocidal war criminals, (1) why can't you grasp one of history's simplest realities?




    (1). "Benjamin Netanyahu Is the War Criminal of the Year"
    https://newrepublic.com/article/177749/bibi-netanyahu-war-crimes-palestine

    "Experts aren't mincing words about the Israeli leader's brutal and disproportionate response to the October 7 Hamas attacks."

    EXCERPT "Israeli officials, in their own words, seem to tacitly acknowledge that their critics’ worst fears are far from unfounded. In early November, Israeli security cabinet member and Agriculture Minister Avi Dichter said “We are now rolling out the Gaza Nakba,” referring to the war against Palestinians and seizure of territory that marked Israel’s founding in 1948." CONTINUED
     
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    Yea , we all know the history. What is your point? Because the history started in 1940 Palestinian government can fire rockets toward Jerusalem every morning and IDF can’t retaliate?
     
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    Yeah? Over 6 months in of you trying to “defang” the genocidal Israel—how’s that working out for you? Lol! Great job with another epic fail!

    could’ve gotten em all out within weeks instead. But nope! You must like genocide, starvation and disease too much for that!
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your puerile taunts and transparent evasions do not obfuscate the bigoted notion that this genocide should not only be condoned but aided and abetted because you've been duped into hating people you've never met and about whom you know nothing.

    Try spending a little more time educating yourself about the topic at hand and a little less time locked in the bathroom with that worn out, old inflatable Netanyahu sex doll.
     
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    Palestinians could have helped and supported a beneficial two state solution many years ago. They chose not to do that and so they live in typical third-world squalor and backwardness. There is no reason that they should be willing to do this that makes any sense except that the Islam religion itself forbids them live peacefully with Jews and Christians.
     
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    I started the thread and it has a very specific angle to it which is specifically the argument that evacuation to safety is better than letting them stay to suffer, to which all your responses have been the actual deviations from that topic, showcasing just how desperate you are to spin things in any other direction than the obvious fact that you have zero defense or explanation why letting Palestinians to continue suffering is a good idea.


    In fact, that desperation has led you all the way into saying that that argument of evacuation is support for genocide! Supporting evacuation is bigotry and hate! LOL!


    Thanks for playing buddy! Maybe play it a little better because your Hamas colors bled through real fast!
     
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    You don't know enough about either the Middle East or genocide to even make an intelligent comment on either one.

    Aiding and abetting any genocide of anyone is illegal and immoral no matter how much you support it .
     
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    You should probably stop abetting genocide by keeping Palestinians caged up then huh?
     
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    If you knew anything about this topic, you would know that Gaza is already "caged up".

    Driving occupied people from their homes is also in violation of International Law.

    Do you have any more bright ideas that are not crimes against humanity?
     
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    Yep and caged is exactly how you’d like em to stay, and no, evacuating willing people to safety is not a violation of international law are you serious lol!

    It’s okay man, you really love Hamas and don’t want their meat shield to go anywhere. We get it!
     
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    Every square inch of Gaza must be cleared of terrorists

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    U.S. and Israel Reportedly Conclude Most Hostages Held In Gaza Are Dead
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    The heart breaks. She was young, fully of life, enjoying a peace concert when Gaza invaded Israel, violently raped her, paraded her before thrilled Gazan crowds in her blood filled pants. I so hoped that she would survive.

    Naama Levy-Shachar:
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    'These women have been held hostage by Gaza. Look at each and every one of their beautiful faces. Look at what Gaza has done to them.'

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    The deal offered Gaza was that 'Israel will free 900 convicted Palestinian terrorists and murders in exchange for 40 hostages.'

    Gaza 'has indicated it is unable to provide 40 living hostages in the category set for initial release under a potential hostage deal — women, children, the elderly, or those requiring medical attention.'

    So Israel 'insisted that 40 living hostages must be freed under any first phase, and that Gaza must make up for any shortage in one category with individuals from another.'

    Gaza should have 133 hostages, but Gaza can’t even name 40 living hostages.
     
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    Claiming that Jews have no right to live in their homeland IS anti-Semitism. Like this that was posted on Cornell campus.

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    'As part of his guilty plea, Dai admitted that, on Oct. 28 and 29, 2023, he posted threatening messages to the Cornell section of an online discussion forum, including posts that said "gonna shoot up 104 west" (a dining hall at Cornell University that caters predominantly to Kosher diets and is next to the Cornell Jewish Center that provides residential accommodations for students)'

    https://reason.com/volokh/2024/04/1...ainst-jewish-students-on-campus/#more-8276082
     
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    IOW claiming that Palestinians can't live in their homeland is anti-Semitism.
     
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    Palestinians are arabs. Who says they can't live in Arabia? Palestinians have lived in Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, West Bank, Gaza. So, I'm not sure why you think you are describing a parallel with the anti-semites that want from the River to the Sea to be a Juden fee.
     
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    The Palestinian Semites have lived in Palestine for millenia and long before Joshua and his murdering thugs butchered all the women and children in Jericho etc and stole their land about 3200 years ago.
     
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    A difference without a truly meaningful distinction.
     
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    Fake history. Those ancients either intermarried with the Jews or were carried off/killed by the Assyrians and Babylonias or fled to Egypt with the remnant of the Jews left by the Babylonians.
     
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    And Palestinians live there today.
     
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    Which is why there should be a two state solution for the continuing issues there, with two independent countries.
     
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    Agreed. As soon as Palestinians agree that the Jewish State has the right to exist behind secure borders, the final borders will be drawn in the disputed territories and there will be peace.

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    Before Zionism and their aims to takeover Palestine, the Moslems and Jews lived there peacefully, and the Jews even supported the Moslems against the crusaders and their attacks.
    And where does the Koran support your claim that Moslems are forbidden to live peacefully with Jews and Christians, given that Jesus is one of their important prophets?
     
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    And that can only happen after Netanyahu resigns or is kicked out
     
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    There is a solution no one anywhere has even thought of. The Palestinians could have Israel's back, denounce military actions against Israel, allow Israel access to everything everywhere to make sure military infrastructure is not built to attack Israel, and could rat on any militants planning anything of the kind and they could all live in peace, even with a two state solution where Israel has guarantees no military infrastructure will be built on Palestinian land. And, of course, that would mean the Palestinians would agree that Israel has a right to exist. After all, two states are two states, including Israel.
     
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