Should We Get Serious About Language Learning?

1) You have made the claim, as I have depicted it, as applying to everyone, perhaps including even those outside of this forum. Would you care to deny that, so I can post your quote, and show you to have zero credibility?

2) My own understanding of English, as should be apparent to anyone who truly is knowledgeable on that subject, is among the best, of the membership, here. So you could not say that you have a much better understanding than me, without saying the same about most of the other members, as well. That is like first-grade level logic, BTW.

 

Maybe you need to start slowly. Read this book and get back to me.

Languages and Children: Making the Match, New Languages for Young Learners, Grades K-8 (4th Edition) 4th Edition

 

Is that the book that you have most recently finished reading?

 

I provided you with many sources to start learning about the subject, and you couldn't be bothered to even read them. What do you expect? You won't take my word for it, you won't read information and research about it, yet you insist on long discredited notions about the subject. I can't perform the Vulcan Mind Meld to give you many decades of education and experience, so either put in some effort or leave it alone.

 

No. Quite some time ago. You?

 

I have been talking to YOU. Why is that difficult to understand?

 

Upon what do you base that claim?

 

That's right, and that is standard practice, in this debate forum; people are expected to back up their claims, with evidence. That is, in fact, the protocol for all debates

Incorrect. I certainly will read information, which is applicable to your claim. You do not specify what data is researched on each of your numerous links. So no, I will not go blindly, looking through whatever links you toss my way. One must wonder, if you are supposedly so knowledgeable about all this, why you would find it an imposition, to accompany your link-- and you would not need so many, if they were actually applicable to my argument, which I am fairly certain, they are not-- with a single sentence of explanation; or why you could not simply SNIP a paragraph that summarizes the findings. Yet, you find it more productive use of your time to try to attack me, for not wanting to be sent off on a wild goose chase. Curious, indeed.

 

As I have. You refused to read it.

 

Hmmmmm.....

 

most are choosing a computer language now

and most countries are learnign English, as they want our jobs

 

That is not hard to understand, nor did I give any indication that it was. In fact, Mr. genius, if you think about it for a second (or maybe longer, in your case), the fact that I replied to you, suggests that I understood you were talking to me...Is that too much for your brain to process? If not, then you should see how utterly wrong of an assumption, was your reply, above. Clearly, I realized you were talking to me, yet you were unsure of this. This is far from the first error in simple logic, I have seen from you. Add that to your purposeful misrepresentations, and anyone has a good reason to be dubious of your claims.

What misrepresentations, and what dubious claims, you ask? Well, your reply, above, was to distance yourself from my assertion that you have made your claim-- that your great English prowess, exceeds that of "the rest of us here"-- through your pretense, that you were singling me out. So your dubious claim, below, shows your misrepresenting of your own boastfulness, above:

Or such a big, and unjustified ego, either.

 

Good. Glad we cleared that up.

 

I'm not talking to "the rest of us here," I'm talking to YOU. I thought you had finally figured that out.

 

Congratulations-- this post of yours, excels in demonstrating both your intellectual depth ("Hmmmmm..."), as well as your level of integrity, through its severe editing of my reply. That, using so few words, you could give such a rich picture of your character, personality, and intelligence, is a really impressive accomplishment-- especially for someone with your character, personality, and, especially, intelligence.

 

Clear it up then. Will you, or will you not, actually read the evidence you demand out the other side of your mouth?

 

The answer was in my post, that you censored to shreds, which was a repetition of what I had already told you (more than once), and it was not what your doctored version of my post implied it to be.

You know how to read, don't you? If so, there should be no need for your question. Just like there was no need to ask if I knew you were addressing me, after I responded to you. This habit of yours, FYI, makes your questions appear insincere.

 

Let me know when you've finished the reading I have given you so far.

 

the problem is, when America works with other countries like India, it seems they take our jobs - and they just learn English to do that

they are motivated to learn cause economically it is important

when we learn it's to help them take our jobs, that is not very motivating

 

That's a narrow and biased view.