Sick and tired of the silly rape argument in abortion.

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some people just want to give life a chance.
     
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    So?
     
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    Then you take care of it, pay for ect.

    Dave Barnhart wrote about the Pro-life movement
    "The unborn" are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don't resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don't ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don't need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don't bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It's almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe.”
    “Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.”
     
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    So you’d let a loved one “live” a life in a unconscious state with no hope of having any quality of life? Wow.
     
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    What did you think I meant when I referred to a fetus in its viable stages?
     
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    What part of for any reason did you fail to grasp.
     
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    I can tell you this, the horror that anti choice people feel at abortions happening "even up to the 9th month" is silly.

    The number of abortions performed after the 24th week is miniscule, and I can guarantee that every single one of them is done because of some medical issue. No woman is going to carry a fetus to week 24 and THEN decide that she just doesn't want to have the baby.
     
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    That is a call that is very tough. Sometimes the brain is dead with no hope of recovery. People have come out of comas after many years.
     
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    There you go.....it's just for the sake of convenience. Sometimes I fantasize being able to go back in time to the second or third trimester of the life of yours and others like you and see to it you were aborted. Wouldn't that be justice? I think so.
     
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    So you've got yours but you would deny others. Pretty self seeking I would say.
     
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    Sorry but if you want it to live then you better be prepared to take care of it.
     
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    Nope, pro-choice here.
     
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    Wow. Very cruel
     
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    So choice to murder others and end innocent lives is fine in your society. We live in different worlds.
     
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    We as citizens take care of others less fortunate all the time. There are those seeking to adopt and I know many. Just because there are those, like yourself, who would cheerfully end life for the sake of convenience should not and does not make it the rule.
     
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    Wow very silly/
     
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    republicans want to choose for others, but get angry at God when they have to choose for themselves

    "Playing God"

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/nov/04/usa.health

    "But, given the vehemence with which he has been fighting to prolong Terri's life, it is a little surprising to learn that Robert decided to turn off the life-support system for his mother."

    Robert says. "I was very angry with God because I didn't want to make those decisions."
     
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    Calm down. Calm down. Then, when you've done that learn about definitions.

    "The fetal stage of development begins around the ninth week and lasts until birth. ... After the 8th week, healthcare providers refer to the embryo as a fetus. It will remain a fetus until birth."
    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/7247-fetal-development-stages-of-growth

    So there is the legal assessment and the medical assessment. It's not a "baby" or a "human being" or a "person" until it is "born alive". So let's stop the false arguments.
     
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    They are not false arguments. Yours is a "philosophy". There is a professor at Princeton, Darwinist Peter Singer, who takes your premise one step further, He states " the life of a newborn is of less value than the life of a pig, a dog, or a chimpanzee". He believes parents should be allowed to kill/abort their infants up until 28 days after birth. You think your premise is "science based" merely because some say it is. Given your philosophy, there is no end to compromising the sanctity of life. Those that believe in "intelligent design with a purpose"........Godly men and women, have a different idea of life and it's purpose.
     
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    Or not.
     
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    Except I don't.
     
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    Those who approve evil and promote it are complicit.
     
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    No woman should be forced to carry a child that is the result of a rape. You can call me every name in the book and try to curse me to hell, but I will not change on that position.
     
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    Nope, sorry.
     
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    So not really pro-life.
     

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