Signs of Desperation for the Harris Campaign

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  1. FatBack

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    Do you still believe the hunter Biden laptop was nothing but a Russian plant?
     
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    Lols! Still think there is any evidence against Joe in that laptop?
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    Seems most were obsessed with just one thing on that laptop
     
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    So you think the crackhead was completely qualified on his own to get a job he had zero qualifications for where he could not even speak the language and drawing and obscene salary?

    And then whatever the number was..... 50 something intelligence officials signing off on it and saying that the laptop was nothing but a Russian plant..... And we're supposed to believe these same people when they tell us anything else? The same people that went pawing through melania's underwear drawer.

    There's your election interference right there. Most decent Americans wouldn't have voted for Joe if they knew the extent of the rot.
     
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    boring.
     
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    I don't know. It's not important.
     
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    Point is, the people that so readily believed it are not pointing with clean hands at other people
     
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    I don’t think desperation describes the Harris campaign. From what I’ve read, over 200 republicans have endorsed her to include the Cheney’s. Perhaps the desperation is with Trump and his campaign. After all, Harris did wipe out a Trump 4.2-point lead over Biden into a 2.1-point lead of her own in a bit over two weeks after Biden withdrew.


    https://www.realclearpolling.com/po...24/trump-vs-biden-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein


    https://www.realclearpolling.com/po...4/trump-vs-harris-vs-kennedy-vs-stein-vs-west


    The dynamics have also changed in the battleground states, whereas Trump led in all 7 against Biden, in 3 of them outside the MOE with Trump holding a 5 point lead or better in those 3 to Harris now leading in 4, Trump in 2, 1 tie. All 7 battleground states are within the MOE which basically makes all 7 tied in my book.


    https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states


    Harris gained 7 points over Biden’s 39% of the vote prior to his withdrawal in the first 2 weeks after he withdrew to 46%. She increased that by 1 over the last month. Trump went from 43% against Biden up to 44% in the same time period and still stands at 44%. Both have basically stagnated since 6 August or for the last month outside of going up or down by a few tenths of a point.


    What we have today is a basic tie all polls, both battleground and nationwide within the MOE. Quite different than in the Biden vs. Trump rematch which Trump seemed on the way to an easy win. With this stagnation it seems 90% of the voters have their minds made up as to who they’ll vote for. The battle now is for the remaining 10%. Probably not so much in the national popular vote, but in how these undecided or intended third party voters in the battle ground states breakdown.


    I think the above shows the Trump campaign to be more desperate than the Harris campaign. I’m not certain the republicans know how to attack or go against Harris, at least not yet. Harris’s gain has come from the double haters, those who disliked and didn’t want neither Trump nor Biden as the next president. Can she keep them? Right now, Harris not being Biden, not being Trump is enough for them to support her. Supporting her only because her last name isn’t Biden, it isn’t Trump. That seems to be enough, at least for now and for the last month and a half. Will it be enough come November?
     
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    I could tell you he suggested injecting disinfectant to cure Covid and you would also ask me for a citation and accuse me of lying if I don't produce one for you. I know that.

    In a recent unhinged rant in front of his adoring MAGA base, he tried to explain what the "late, great Hannibal Lecter" is all about. He told them these are the kind of people that are crossing the border, cannibals who will eat you. He also said you send your kid to school one day and he/she comes back with a "horrible operation". In a recent interview, he was asked what he would do about child care, he said "child care is child care". This is your choice of candidates for POTUS. Aren't you just so proud of the stable genius, the intelligence just oozes from his fat lips, right? Oh you want a citation? Google.com.

    I'll take an educated guess and say it doesn't matter to you if he is going to terminate the Constitution if elected, because it's the orange hero for you no matter what he says or does. I know that too.

    So there's no point in discussing any lunacy (the list is incredibly long) the orange nightmare says or does with you. That's also a given. Sleep tight son.
     
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    yeah and I was say that is yet another bit of bullshit that the DNC fawning media twisted.
     
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    then perhaps watch Family Feud or play hoops with your kids if you are not amused with this board
     
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    I don't think that the GOP is desperate at all.

    Trump routinely outperforms his polls.

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    CNN’s Harry Enten: Trump Outperforming His Current Numbers ‘By Just a Single Point’ in November Will Lead to Victory.

    “The problem for Harris is that Donald Trump has been gaining on her in our polling averages, too — at least in the most important Electoral College states,” since the Democrat National Convention, Silver observed. “She’s actually losing ground since the start of the convention in swing state polls,” he also wrote.

    As Pew Research Center explained last month:

    'Confidence in U.S. public opinion polling was shaken by errors in 2016 and 2020. In both years’ general elections, many polls underestimated the strength of Republican candidates, including Donald Trump. These errors laid bare some real limitations of polling.'

    'In 2020, a post-election review of polling by the American Association for Public Opinion Research (AAPOR) found that “the 2020 polls featured polling error of an unusual magnitude: It was the highest in 40 years for the national popular vote and the highest in at least 20 years for state-level estimates of the vote in presidential, senatorial, and gubernatorial contests.”'

    'NYT/Siena: 61% of voters say they want the next president to bring a “major change” from president Biden. —— Which candidate represents major change in this election?
    Donald Trump: 53%
    Kamala Harris: 25%

    Sept. 3-6 | 1,374 LV https://nytimes.com/interactive/2024/09/08/us/politics/times-siena-poll-likely-electorate-crosstabs.html
     
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    I’m not predicting a winner or a loser. Just stating when the MOE is taken in consideration, today we have a basic tie. Also stating Harris is doing much better than Biden against Trump. Will that continue? The fact is both major party candidates have stagnated over the last month. Neither one gaining or losing outside of a couple of tenths of a point either way.


    I do think Harris can win due to the fact she isn’t Biden nor is she Trump. But saying can is a lot different than saying she will. Yes, Trump has out preformed the polls by a point or two. Even taking that into consideration, you still have a basic tie as Harris has a 2-point lead.


    I really don’t have a druther as to who wins or loses. Elections however, they fascinate me to no end. I expected Harris to scarf up most those double haters once Biden withdrew. The ones who disliked and didn’t want neither Trump nor Biden as the next president. They still dislike Trump, but Harris is relatively unknown to them outside she isn’t Trump and isn’t Biden. You can see that in the drop of third-party voters, from 12% in the Biden vs. Trump rematch down to 2-3% in the Harris vs. Trump matchup. Will they remain committed to Harris? They have over the last month, but there still time for that to change. No prediction outside the republicans will pick up the West Virginia senate seat.
     
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    Totally...
    Trump is headed to a 50-State Sweep...
    Harris will even be deprived victory on her home turf in CA based on Sen. Romero's powerhouse earth-shaking endorsement of Trump...
    Kamala, we hardly knew ye...
     
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    As Nate Silver has been pointing out the "tie" is just because Kamala can run up the score in the Rump Coastal Regions. In the US, you can't win a national election by running up the score in the rump coastal strips.

    If the popular is tie, Trump's the likely winner 95% of the time.

    Nate Silver:
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    She can probably steal a close election.
    He out performed his 2020 polls by more than that.

    And Harris doesn't have 2 point lead in a single battleground state (Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Nevada)
    She's the incumbent in an election when voters want change.
     
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    Trump has doubled his White Support from 2020.

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    They can have them.

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    It was a lot more annoying than funny.
     
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    Even CNN Is Panicking About About Kamala’s Slide in the Polls.

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    Poll Sliding.

    New York Times/Siena poll showed Trump leading and 'Nate Silver’s latest election model projections give Trump a 63.8% chance of victory, compared to Kamala Harris’s 36%.'

    PA is slip sliding away, because she didn't pick Shapiro as VP

    She couldn't pick a Jewish VP because she is courting the Death To America and Death To The Jews Michigan and Minnesota Vote.
     
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    Two disdained and rejected Republicans..........................

    The former Democrat Senate Majority leader of California just endorsed Trump and switched parties. You really want to play that game of tit-for-tat?
     
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    IF NOTHING ELSE, WATCHING DEMS DO AN INSTANT 180 FROM “DARTH CHENEY” TO “HE’S OUR GUY” HAS BEEN ENTERTAINING: Why Dick Cheney’s Endorsement of Kamala Is Utterly Worthless.

    'In what CNN unconvincingly described as a "stunning move," Cheney called Donald Trump the "greatest threat to our republic" in our nation's 248-year history' while ignoring that Bribed Joe claimed that Darth Cheney was the most dangerous VP in the history of the United States. And Bribed Joe has been in the Federal Government for 1/5th of the nation's existence. In fact, Bribed Joe was born closer in time to the civil war than today.

    'Assuming that Cheney's endorsement is either coveted or beneficial speaks to an arrogance that only the most sheltered and detached of Washington swamp creatures enjoy. Cheney joins a short and uninfluential cadre of RINOs whose recent broadsides against conservatives and the Republican Party reflect not honor and integrity but a lack thereof.'

    'It exposes the narcissism, resentment, and rigid inability to adapt to present-day circumstances. The cocktail party Republicans dogmatically refuse to concede that the ol' country club, wink-and-nod way of cutting backroom deals with Democrats is increasingly a relic of the past. The fire eaters and true believers of the Squad/Sanders bent have largely ousted whatever remains of the Old Guard Liebermans and Manchins.'

    'Adam Kinzinger thought he could save his House seat from Democrat redistricting if he jumped on board the anti-Trump train. And after giving him lip service to bipartisanship and duty to country, the Democrats redistricted him out of office anyway. As for Cheney, the Democrats spent the better part of his administration calling for his persecution as a war criminal. If he thinks he's now building bridges of reconciliation with the Left as a result of their fleeting approbations, he still doesn't understand what Lenin meant by the term "useful idiots."'

    They can have him, and the neocon princess.
     
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    Bad spin = Fake News
     
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    Seems that has been the Democrats mantra as justification to engage in their lawfare against Trump.
     
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    The polls say Harris is fading.
     

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