Soviet invasion of Poland, 1939

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  1. Ronstar

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    Wait wait, you're saying bringing up an event that happened 75 years ago, really isn't that relevant?

    PUTIN APOLOGIST!!!!!!!!
     
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    So what?

    What's the point?

    Or is this just another bash fest.
     
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    It's not. This is yet another attempt to compare Vladimir Putin to the likes of Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin.
     
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    Let's forget all about the Allies letting the Soviet Union have ALL of Poland and half of Europe after the war. Instead we need to view it through a microscopic sized window of your choosing, so we only see what you want us to see, and only come to the conclusion you hope we come to.

    Germany's pact with the Soviet Union was political strategy aimed at ultimately destroying the U.S.S.R. and Marxism with it.
    America's alliance with the Soviet Union, on the other hand, gift wrapped most of the world for Communism, aiding it in its international aims for worldwide revolution like no other in the history of the ideology.

    And today the conservative little folk wonder how Marxism took over America lol.
     
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    Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know the drill. You either support Hitler or you are a Marxist.
     
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    A better way to put it would be: "You either supported Hitler or your children and future nation would be ruled by Marxists."
    I know, you disagree, and in your mind WWII is an American fantasy, where the righteous American freedom-soldiers stopped evil Germany from exterminating the non-whites of the Earth (laughable and not rooted in reality) and marching all across the world to cover the Earth in darkness.

    In reality, all you did was crush a Nationalistic white nation at the heart of Western civilization so the radical left, whose only true rival was Germany, could conquer the world in accordance with its openly stated aims, through military expansion and.... subversive revolutionary tactics.

    You won.

    Enjoy your demise.
     
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    Somebody's really salivating at the so-called end of western culture.

    I agree with the sentiments but not the tactics and reasonings and the justification.

    Western culture is crap.

    But unlike him, I don't want to destroy it, I'd just like it to be changed into something where people truly learn to respect each other and look out for one another (WITHOUT government obtrusiveness), with maximum freedom and civil rights.

    Unfortunately thanks to selfishness of white Americans, that will never happen.
     
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    It is new and shocking to the products of public school indoctrination. Schools mention that Hitler and the Germans invaded Poland and don't mention their ally, Stalin and the Soviets. It's rather like schools teaching that Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves in the U.S. and the FDR ended the Great Depression.
     
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    Western culture today is the Allied victory of WWII, or are we still not making the connection between the New World Order of Marxism, Corporatism and soulless materialism brought on by the Soviet/American victory? The modern world didn't just leap out of the Earth. It was created, by the victors and the dawn of their New Order.

    Take a look out your window. That's what you've done with your victory..

    Nothing but decline and excuses for that decline, and a complete lack of accountability for it.

    America will be a demoted nation under a Mexican majority, Europe is under siege from Islamic immigration, all religion has rapidly begun to fade leaving nothing but nihilism in its vacuum.

    America may as well nuked Europe and itself. It would of basically achieved the same thing their grand Allied victory did, only sooner.
     
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    why is reminding the people about history, an attack against Vlad Putin?
     
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    Anyone can see that you're using this to bash Vlad Putin.

    You made your position clear a long time ago. The holocaust never happened, Hitler never wanted to kill anyone but Marxists, Hitler just wanted living space for the Aryan race, Hitler wanted peace.

    None rooted in reality, but all believed by you.
     
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    this topic is about history, not Mr. Pootin.
     
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    All supported by facts, all supported by evidence, all supported by reality.
    Meanwhile, your position (agenda....) is driven by History Channel propaganda documentaries. Of course, in America, your television always tells the truth, wise and gentle Master that it is.
     
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    No, just no.
     
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    Good post.
     
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    If it was new research or a different take on the issue I would be definitely interested. As in I am reading an excellent book about the psychology of Eastern Europe immediately after the war. :)
     
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    He thrusts his fists against the post and still insists he sees the ghost.
     
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    Ohh how about that. I thought it was some get square thing for the Polish Soviet war in 1919....silly me
     
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    I don't feel like arguing this argument again. Every point you provided in the last argument was either refuted or did not support your overall theory.

    Your entire argument goes something like this.

    1) Hitler was defeated and the Marxists won.

    2) The Marxists control everything.

    3) Therefore, anyone who does not agree with me is a servant of the Marxists and must be dismissed.
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    Russia also grabbed a sizable chunk of Poland at the end of the Seven Years War.

    They did it before and they'll do it again if Putin can resuscitate the torpid bear. There's nothing to stop him.

    Biting off chunks of Poland is a favorite Russian pastime, right behind vodka and chess.
     
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    Well done declaring my defeat in another thread in the hopes that current readers will simply believe you.

    Yes, that is my position, and I'll stand by it.

    The ideological war has always been Nationalism vrs International Communism. I believe it was Rosa Luxemburg, Communist revolutionary, who astutely asked, "Which will die and which will grow?" American conservatives, American "moderates" and even American liberals have been speed bumps in this struggle, and not actual participants.

    The outcome of WWII brought about the total victory of Communism. If you celebrate that victory, you're celebrating what that victory was.

    You can claim it was the victory of "Christian civilization" if you want to lie, but that falls flat considering Christian civilization has since been vanquished by the very forces that won WWII.
    I suppose you could call it a victory for "freedom," like all your other American wars (as told by stupid people), but that also falls flat considering the sheer number of people you put under Bolshevik slavery that lead to the systematic murder of a hundred and fifty million souls in the 20th century.

    Basically, you can accept my position or you can just lie.
     
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    Should we also teach school kids about the Polish Soviet war from 1919 to 1921?

    Or the Western allies involvement in the Russian Civil War from 1918?

    At what point do we begin to over educate kids with things that really dont matter to them anymore?
     
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    Invading Poland used to be a favorite German pastime, too. Both Frederick the Great and Hitler indulged.

    But today, Germans are too besotted by free stuff to worry about Poland.
     

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