Stanford Epidemiologist On COVID Death Rate: 0.15%

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  1. Darth Gravus

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    This is how I picture Eleuthra...

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    You must work around people with lots of money and sick days. Because in the real world people go to work sick all the time.
     
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    Yeah, buddy, keep promoting that official narrative! :lol:
     
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    just promoting the truth. Something you are not very familiar with
     
  5. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    You are an excellent propagandist. I'll put an 'attaboy' letter in your personnel file! :D
     
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    No, I don't, actually. Some go to work sick, some don't. It depends on the job, if somebody else can cover for the person, etc...

    Where I work, it is easier to take off when sick (no sick pay, but vacation days can be used) since we all have separate specialized jobs that we do, so we can just return back to doing our own work whenever we return back to work. In my personal experience, in my ~8.5 years of employment for my current employer, I have only ever taken off of work one time (for a few days) due to illness. I had some sort of flu and was throwing up and everything. Otherwise, I've never had anything more than a slight head cold during that time. Other people have been sick and would typically take off for a bit before returning, depending on how bad it was, but would at other times go to work anyway if it wasn't that bad.
     
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    Actually the reported “official” death rate for influenza is an estimate. We now know it is an extreme underestimate.
     
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    Yet ... all ... We the People get is crickets.World shatteting news
    that IS Scientific,In fact Nothing but Scientific.Pretty telling when the
    CDC { So-called experts } Cannot fork over a vial of Covid-19
    for testing and comparison.I was right all along about this Supposed Pandemic.
    Based on the Mid-October Secret EVENT 201 table top discussion
    in 2019 at N.Y.'s Pierre Hotel { Oct.18,2019 } hosted by the Bill and Melinda
    Gates Foundation,Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security and the World
    Economic Forum.
    Gates gives huge sums to both the CDC and WHO.Little Lord Fauci is
    also The Highest Paid Government Employee in the U.S. Has been for years.
    So Covid was and IS part of the Global Cabal Plan to strike our ability
    to Maintain the Worlds biggest Economy.Which it did.
    By Taking ordinary Influenza { arrives yearly } and find a way to manipulate
    it's coverage { By Hospitals,Doctors,Blue State Governors } to strike fear
    into every American.In 2018 over 80,ooo died from the Flu.
    Just use other illnesses { Heart Disease,Cancer,Obesity,Old age
    and pneumonia } and call it Covid-related { Diagnosis }.
    Hospitals and Doctors will get paid bonus and We the People will be none
    the wiser.It worked.Like a charm for almost a year.The those like Fauci
    got exposed as contradicting themselves.So it wasn't Science.It was
    as planned.A Pandemic Preparedness plan to do what Global Warming
    and Climate Change couldn't manage.
     
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    what's the math there? 15 deaths per 10000 people? and most of those with a comorbidity? The reaction to Covid was hype and a scam for the Left, and continues to be.
     
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    Says who_Or reported where.Influenza or the common Flu have roughly
    the same mortality each year they strike.It runs in the { 0.1- 0.3 } range
    according to age.
    The Spanish flu was in the 0.9 % range to 3 % range.
     
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    PLus why the urgency to get a vaccine if one still needs to wear a mask.
    Plus this new Globalist move to Hype { Variants }. The average common cold
    is a seasonal { yearly Variant }. If it wasn;t then why each year are Flu
    shots different.Aside from the fact that the Flu or common cold has No
    Vaccine.Just like Aids still has no Vaccine.
    Little Lord Fauci knows all that.He took his time trying to beat Aids.
    He's the guy running cover for the WHO.He's a Manipulator.
    A Propagandist.Look at those who Push Fauci.ALL Blue State Bully
    Governors.What the hell should that tell ya.
     
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    A Friend of mine wife works at the Big Local Hospital.
    It changed hands a little over a year ago.He tells me that she
    worries.Workers and hospital staff are leaving.She has to work
    sundays now.It been this way since last summer.What wer're slowly
    fiding out is a Major Conspiracy to Mislead the Public.Like what took
    place in the 2020 election,The January 6th storming { Not a single Firearm
    was collected and the one person shot { Ashli Babbt } that Capitol cop
    who murdered her will go Unpunished.Not even the name will be known.
    Then the Lies about Georgias new Integrity Election law called a
    Jim Crow bill.
    The lies by the left are now so blatant and unforgiving it means
    the Country may be doomed.Because our Public schools teach these
    lies.Lying and changing the language is Now Baked into not just Politics
    but every facet of American Life.It's more than a Power Grab.
    It's a Stalinist Takeover.Americans can now expect to be Framed.
     
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    Of course it must be by Population.
    Then that begs the question why Blue State Governors would use
    state population numbers.Or Admitted to Hospital numbers.
    Or those playing hooky from school numbers.
    Those who failed to show up on Wednesday night Bingo.
    The Only way to not manipulate numbers is not overdo it.
    Most adults know about Playing the numbers game.Card sharks
    know backwards as forwards the odds.Like Steve McQueen and
    Lancey Howard of - The Cincinnati Kid - { 1965 }.
     
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    Well one thing is sure any Consensus is definitely out of the question.
    Since Project Veritas proved the other day that a key person at CNN
    when off and blabbed what the Higher-ups at CNN { Jeff Zucker }
    Mandated.He spoke plainly and confidently what the Marching orders
    at CNN where.That being ... Higher.Even Higher Covid Death numbers.
    The higher the better.Look for ways to cite Higher numbers.
    That was so unbelievable { even though that news was suppressed }
    it earned Project Veritas James O'Keefe a Permanent Ban from TWITTER.
    Twitter claimed that O'Keefe Lied about having more than one account.
    " because he allegedly used multiple fake accounts to boost his following
    and artificially amplify or disrupt conversation. "
     
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    Those estimates do not include most deaths from influenza induced cardiovascular events. Go here for more information.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1072137735/
     
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    That is a cool story Bro.

    You have a very active imagination.
     
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    I saw a piece at ISE Media with Ben Swann, and it pointed out that prices for life insurance have not gone up, suggesting there is no measurable increase that the actuaries could see. The overall death rate has not gone up appreciably.

    These whole 13 months the "crisis" has been in the media and projected upon the masses. They have been terrorized and many of them still don't know it. Mass hysteria lines them up to take an experimental drug to 'protect' from a virus with a 99% survival rate.

    Men go mad in herds....
     
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    Lunacy to you and me. To government, power is what it is all about. It makes perfect sense to government. We need ban government from future pandemics.
     
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    Government in the US is a wholly owned subsidiary of the medical industrial complex.

    They've succeeded in bringing this plandemic and will likely succeed in the future with others.
     
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    Nope. I've already posted an article from the BBC explaining that roughly 66% of COVID decedents were going to die within a year no matter what we did due to extreme old age, preexisting health problems, or some combination of the two. And the age-stratified COVID death data demonstrates this beyond any reasonable doubt. You refuse to admit this because you're still in denial over the massive damage that you've done to society with your totalitarian "mitigation" efforts.
     
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    "Daniel Light" does not care at all about the massive damage that lockdowns, masks, and other antisocial measures are doing to the fabric of society. He is a holy warrior in the crusade against COVID and is more than willing to accept the collateral damage.
     
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    No, they don't. They are a demonstrable failure on every level and severely damaging to society.

    And if a policy is justified solely because it "saves lives", then why don't we force obese people into mandatory exercise and dietary programs? That would surely "save lives" since we now know beyond any doubt that obesity is one of the primary predictors of COVID fatality rates. It's not like you can claim to care about the freedom of obese people to make their own choices. Your entire "mitigation" religion is based on naked contempt for personal choice and freedom.
     
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    No, you are simply wrong.

    And obese people are only a danger to themselves, not others.
     
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    The data proves me right.

    For example, the Scandinavian countries (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland) all have extremely low mask compliance and relatively low stringency measures in place, yet they've performed better than basically everyone else in Europe. Meanwhile, countries with extremely high mask compliance and relatively high stringency measures (like Belgium, France, Italy, Spain) have done horribly.

    There is simply no evidence supporting your asinine theories about the effectiveness of mitigation efforts.

    Obese people are more likely to get sick and pass on the infection to others. They are also more likely to require healthcare subsidies from taxpayers.
     
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    That is the percent that has died which is about 500 thousand / 300 million. But we did a lot of lockdown, social distancing, and masking measures to reduce infections, and hence deaths. The Trump estimated that without any measures 2 million would have died.
     

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