State trooper who told off Inslee over vaccine mandate dies from COVID

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    We all can go back to my previous post and see that my source isn't AP.
    /facepalm

    And FYI, AP only reports informatie that they get. They don't make information.
    If such-and-so says this-and-that, that's what they publish... including that it's said by such-and-so.
    With that, THEY don't make the mistake. If it's not true, the mistake was made by such-and-so.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolute baloney. All the above makes it totally clear that:
    (a) You haven't read the actual study, or you would have it at your fingertips
    (b) You STILL don't have a clue what the purpose of peer reviews is, or you would know what you say is baloney
    (c) You don't even understand why the study IS subject to peer review

    And you telling me is like a person telling an electrician how to change a light bulb LOL
     
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    Snotloller this is some of the most delusional absurdity I’ve ever read on here.

    Your point is easily disproven. A simple google search for ANY search term combination about how police are bad will return LITERALLY hundreds of thousands of leftist propaganda sites and stories about how evil police are and VERY few instances of rightist propaganda about how police are bad. Do righties who hate cops exist? Sure but to even attempt to compare them to how prolific that sentiment is on the left is laughable.
     
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  4. Monash

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    Words vs actions. All I'm interested in is the latter.

    But if you really want to prove your point fine, deep dive into google (and the dark web because that's where you'll find a whole raft of extreme rightist BS). And no, I hold no truck with either .
     
  5. ShadowX

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    I don’t necessarily disagree with words v actions. With that being said... as you just acknowledged, to find the righties who hate police you have to go looking for them in difficult to find places. To find the lefties who hate police you just have to talk to a lefty. As evidenced by the fact the lefty ideology of hate police can be found easily and anywhere and is FAR more prolific than rightists advocating for the same.

    And while I’ll accept your claim that you hold no truck with either... attempting to compare the two groups is incredibly misleading when one group is so much more prolific in their hate for police and whose doctrine and voice is far more widespread and mainstream than the other.
     
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  6. ShadowX

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    Here let’s try it this way. Can you acknowledge that the hate the police ideology is FAR more mainstream on the left than it is on the right?
     
  7. Junkieturtle

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    Think of it like a seatbelt. They won't save every life, but they're going to help save quite a few.

    And what you see as celebrating, I see as pointing to something sad and likely to be preventable and saying "Hey, don't be like this guy and especially not because of politics and bogus conspiracy theories".
     
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    You have not answered any questions.
     
  9. Darthcervantes

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    I’m vaxxed and know 3 people that were vaxxed that died of covid
    I find this grave dancing to be silly and unnecessary
    It’s a free country and we can do what we want to our bodies
    Isn’t that what y’all say about abortions?
     
  10. Arkanis

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    Then why did you get the vaccine?

    There is no grave dancing, you are making it up.

    And everyone has the freedom to die as they wish.

    However, I also have the right to call out Fox who gave his 15 minutes of fame to this state trooper.
     
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    I realize what you meant, but the vast majority of those refusing to consume this product are current in all of their necessary vaccines and do routine blood tests. It is not a reasonable comparison.

    Mandates, on the other hand, deprive individuals of their freedom and their right to pursue happiness. In this case, he lost his job and the community lost a servant all because people in power forced their beliefs on him.

    2 years is a significant percentage of our lives.

    If the average lifespan is 78 years, thats 2.5 percent of our lives living like prisoners in our own homes. Not spending time with family, friends, etc.

    We lost 893,000 lives out of 329 million. Thats .25%

    Mandates and lock downs have taken 2.5% of ones life to avoid a .25% chance of death. 10 times more life is lost for those living in fear.

    The coward dies a thousand deaths, but this valiant trooper tasted death but once.
     
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    Should we include all the people who died of cancer due to the FDA and CDC approval for Zantac after their 8 year study and 10 years on the shelf from Pfiser for an over the counter heartburn medication that they are scrambling to get of the shelves while paying out 4 billion in settlements to keep things quiet while the left congratulates the CDC and FDA for an 8 month creation and FDA approval for their Covid shot?

    This OP wasn't created as some warning so you can save your breath. This was created as a political poke in the eye to anyone who disagrees with leftist ideology while standing on the grave of a great American who dedicated his life to the service of others.

    Which makes it pretty clear the OP never dawned such a uniform in his life. Typical
     
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    Sorry, your idea that its a study so it has to be peer reviewed is all the indication anyone needs to verify you don't have a clue what peer review is.
    Or the fact you thought because medRxiv host peer reviewed studies, and they discussed this study, it will be peer reviewed.

    Laughable at best
     
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    No settlement has been reached. And it remains to be only allegedly that there is a connection between Zantac and cancer.
    While Pfizer is a completely unrelated kind of medication, build upon a pre-existing approved technology.


    Even Trump supports taking the vaccine. So your claim this is just a left political wing thing is utter nonsense, but it does show some right wingers are politicing any given subject in an utterly irrational way. What this is, is poking fun at a trooper who made the dumbest mistake of his life. We can nominate the idiot for the Darwing award, where you qualify if you genes are no longer be able to be passed due to your own stupidity.
     
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    Go reread post #252. The more you say, the more you're revealing your ignorance. The fact that you think what I say is wrong is proof positive that you haven't a clue LOL
     
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    Then maybe you should read your own links before posting them
    First two lines in your link

    If you have decided to not get vaccinated against COVID-19, a new data analysis from The Associated Press concludes you may have a higher risk of dying compared to those who have chosen to be vaccinated.

    The analysis was released in May of 2021 and looks at COVID-19 related deaths in vaccinated versus unvaccinated individuals—only .8% (150) of vaccinated people accounted for the 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May.

    Its what the entire story is about but because you found it at
    https://medicalpartnership.usg.edu/...98-to-99-of-americans-dying-are-unvaccinated/
    You thought it was Medical partnership claim?
    You should facepalm

    So who told the Associated press Mississippi’s Poison Control Center was swamped with calls from people who’d taken Ivermectin with 70% of the calls were Ivermectin-related?
    NOBODY which is why they were labeled as The Fake News Factory

    So who told the Associated Press U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship are being abruptly discharged” by the Trump administration.
    NOBODY which is why they were labeled as The Fake News Factory

    So who told the Associated Press about migrant children as young as 14 housed at a juvenile detention center in Virginia were beaten while handcuffed and locked up for long periods in solitary confinement,” “left nude and shivering in concrete cells.
    NOBODY which is why they were labeled as The Fake News Factory

    You claim is as fake as your link.
    NEXT
     
  17. FreshAir

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    neither was your statement, thus my point
     
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    You are far from correct. Those giving up on time with family and friends out of fear of death, are not living. There is a difference between being alive (Existing) and living. Mandates and lock downs take 10X more life than the virus.

    Your needle reference was not a point. (See what I did there? Needle-point!)
     
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    People who took Zantac made with ranitidine and developed cancer filed lawsuits after manufacturers issued ranitidine and Zantac recalls for the potential risk of cancer. FDA found Zantac’s active ingredient ranitidine contained N-Nitrosodimethylamine (‘NDMA’) a human carcinogen. The FDA told all manufacturers to stop selling Zantac made with ranitidine in the United States in April 2020 because NDMA contamination can increase over time. The longer the drug sits on the shelf, the greater the amount of NDMA in the drug and the FDA doesn’t know how long NDMA has been in Zantac.

    Over 80,000 filings are already approved for cancer links to Zantac due to Zantac’s design being defective because its active ingredient, ranitidine, is an unstable molecule and the Zantac drug label failed to properly warn the public about the risk of cancer.

    And all this 10 years after their 8 year study (Not 8 months like the Covid shot)

    Thats a long long long way from alleged.

    Oh, so now your a Trump supporter. Who knew

    Did you want to point to any conservatives making threads about individuals who took the vaccine and died from it or are you just talking to be talking?
    I'll wait while you dig those up

    So (according to you) it shows how right wingers are politicing this, but you think poking fun at the death of the Trooper over Covid isn't?

    The amount of hypocrisy in that single statement really speaks for itself.[/QUOTE]
     
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    I don't think his family gave up on him, he died
     
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    long term studies are for long term use, not one or two pills and that's it
     
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    I can't think of any. Dying from an agonizing disease that is VERY easily preventable so as to somehow spare the feelings of a con man who will never even know you did it and definitely wouldn't care even if he did seems about the height of pure crackbrained idiocy to me.
    Really, tell me of a stupider way to die. Not just any suicide, mind you, one involving a good deal of personal pain and suffering while being absolutely BIZARRE in what is it's ONLY possible motivation.
     
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    You are good at addressing points I never made. Can you address the one I did make? I showed 10X more life lost to these mindless mandates.
     
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    what? you showed 10x more life lost from the mandates then the virus? really?
     
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    Leftist radicals may be more 'prolific' (perhaps more obvious or more vocal would be better descriptions) but they are not rated by the FBI as the more serious threat to the Republic or to the safety or its citizens. That honor goes to far right wing extremists. Below is a link to an interesting article summarizing ideologically motivated killings in the US over the past 20 years.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/08/post-911-domestic-terror

    Leftists, especially in the US tend to be noticed more because they are by and large products of urban environments and reside in or around major cities of the US. As such they are more visible to the media. These factors also grossly inflate the apparent number of radical leftists in the US. Attending a BLM rally in your local city because of a recent Police shooting does not automatically make someone a radical leftist or even a supporter of leftist ideologies in general. (Well initially that was the case, as time has passed the BLM movement has to an extent been hijacked by groups with 'broader' agendas as is usually the case when some cause or issue catches the public's attention.)

    At the same time most of the people who attended the DC riot were not committed radical right wing extremists either although groups there were clearly determined to hijack the rally if they could for their own political purposes. Extreme left and extreme right, far more similar to each other than they care to admit.
     

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