Swine flu verses Covid-19

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  1. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Are you saying that the Trump administration might fudge numbers? I'm shocked. SHOCKED!!!
    Having said that, where did you get your MD from that you would have that insite? Dr. Breitbart? Dr. Hannity? Give it a break. Your answer shows that there can be no reliable information in your mind.......so why argue any point.
     
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    Testing isn't going to make the death rate go up or down, as there is no vaccine.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    No, no he didn't and given your answer it pretty much proves that he did since you can't prove him wrong.
    Tell me, speaking of toilet paper, do you use it to cover your mouth because whenever you speak it would seem to be needed.
     
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    If you have to ask you are mathematically challenged
     
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    Number up with same amount of deaths is a good thing. It shows the virus isn’t that dangerous.
     
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    Yeah I mean, back in reality, using only confirmed worldwide cases the death rate is only 0.03% but sure, who could prove him wrong with his solid argument.

    That explains why the people, again back in reality, panic buying toilet paper are leftists.

    I'm guessing you're well stocked.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love watching them struggle with basic mathematical ideas.
     
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    Yep.
    That's why I didn't put an absolute number on it.
    But quick if you really believe that you should call Trump, because he is declaring a national emergency.
    It may be time for you to switch your position.
     
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    You think those will magically go away?

    Starting with the 2003 SARS epidemic and the avian influenza ("bird flu") outbreak of 2005, many U.S. hospitals, nursing homes and other health facilities started putting disease outbreak preparations into place, according to a trio of experts at Johns Hopkins University.

    Then in 2009 came the notorious H1N1 novel strain of influenza.

    H1N1 was "linked to reports of severe disease [and] no specific vaccine was available," noted Drs. Amesh Adalja, Eric Toner and Thomas Inglesby, all from Hopkins' Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore.

    However, because U.S. federal, state and local governments had already been preparing a coordinated response to disease outbreaks after SARS and avian flu, by 2009 many health care centers were quickly able to "activate" their pandemic flu plans.

    That proved to be crucial. In 2009, hospitals "experienced a large surge of patients in emergency departments and intensive care units [ICUs]," the experts said. Improvements in diagnostic testing helped quickly sort out which incoming patients had H1N1 and which didn't -- triaging patients, saving precious hospital resources, and cutting down on the flu's spread.
     
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    I’m sure you have a point but I fail to see it.
     
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    Lets look at it from a different perspective.
    What do you think the rate is?
     
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    Apparently the WHO test is flawed and giving false positives and the rate even with the flawed denominator of diagnosed cases is 1% so it’s going to be well under that in reality.
     
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    Sure.

    Screenshot_2020-03-13 Why The Death Rate From Coronavirus Is Plunging In China.png
     
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    Link.
     
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    I've said it many times.

    The left won't survive a real emergency.
     
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    Head of CDC just said it in Trump press conference
     
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    There are 40 dead in the US so far, so you can only hope that there will be more, in hopes of making Trump look bad. At least that is what I get out of your trollish post.
     
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    Are you talking about false positives from people that have already had it?
     
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    The are dealing with it to flatten the curve for the infection rate, which is what you are supposed to do. What would you do?

    Show me how your statement wasn't total nonsense.
     
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    No need for the personal insults against me. I didn't even reference Trump in my post, and yet you still insult me with a reference to Trump.

    The flu does kill tens of thousands every year, and that's even with the flu vaccines most of us take each year. BTW, just because the flu is different from covid19 does not mean the same exact precautions used to prevent contracting the flu also apply to covid19.
     
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    What statement?
     
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    Well, it might have been in poor taste, but it's not trolling. We're going to lose a lot of people over this. You don't think so? The number will only be in the tens of thousands, if we get lucky.
     
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