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Syria army claims shot down Israeli plane; Israel says no jet damaged

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by litwin, Mar 17, 2017.

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  1. Paysan

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    Assad has heavier Russian backing now, hence his arrogance.

    lol at the mess in Syria. Turkey and Russia are historically NOT friends. Turkey hates the Kurds. Assad, anti-Assad factions, IS and other terrorist factions, lol!!!

    I know, let's blame ISRAEL for all this!
     
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    Among all that tangled mess, the only real "good guys" are people seeking independence for a group persecuted by one or more of the extant regimes in the region. Certainly the Kurds qualify.

    Kurdistan is a moral imperative. It would include what is now Iraqi and Syrian territory, possibly Iranian as well. Turkish, no. The Kurds aren't from Turkey. Kurds were moved in by the Turks to occupy territory ethnically-cleansed of Armenians. Much of eastern Anatolia is by rights Armenian, and the time is coming when it will again be so.

    There is justification also for a Christian state of Aramaeans, Assyrians, Chaldeans. How to construe that I don't know, but they are so abused by the Moslem "Arab" majority that there is no justification for them being ruled any longer by Moslems.

    Since Syria is no longer a viable country, nor Iraq for that matter, such border re-design is a good idea now.
     
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    Pro-Zionist tub-thumping. Wars of aggression are illegal. Zionism is criminal by default.

    That's a given- not because of any silly attempt at sarcasm, but because Zionism is to blame.
     
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    The problem in Yemen is al Qaeda and the al Houthis. Saudi Arabia's problem is keeping suicide bombers out of KSA. The Yemen terrorist groups are firing Russian missiles into KSA.
     
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    Obama wasn't "kicked out". He served two terms. Are you an American?
     
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    This is only a lame reasoning with these allegedly fired missiles. Point is that Saudi Arabia still started far be fore intervention to back the official government against any unrest and to prevent any Iranian influence. Fact is that there is not only Al Qaeda and the Shiite Houthi rebel backed by Iran (called to be terrorists too)... there is also ISIS active and many minor sub groups of all known terror groups and the best is that they all are in war against each other too.
     
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    Al Houthis were attacking KSA as far back as 2011. There's information posted in PF archives.
     
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    Hezbollah was formed in the mid 1980s to keep Israel out of Lebanon.
     
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    They have a some years older pre-history as 1982 = the official founding data. :xd:
     
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    Never surprised me. Two problems. Lebanon's demographic was turned upside down because Israel drove so many Arabs out of Palestine and then Israel ALWAYS wanted the Litani River which is in Lebanon.

    They have done nothing but mooch off foreign aid and cause trouble.
     
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    Ehm ...

    The Huthi conflict is a civil war in Yemen. It began in June 2004 with the revolt of the Huthi, a political-military movement of the Zaidites, a Shiite group led by their religious and political leader Hussein Badreddin al-Huthi, against the Yemenite government under Ali Abdullah Salih.

    Question: What happened in 2011 too and cause the conflict with Saudi Arabia?
     
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    Any state can build a civil reactor. Iraq had been a non-nuclear weapon state member of the Treaty on the Nonproliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) since 1969.
    Israel attacked Iraq- illegally- and destroyed the reactor- illegally. People ask why there are so many UN Resolutions against these pariahs.
     
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    And the reactor in Syria?
     
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    Actually, you're correct, but they didn't overthrow the government right away.. By 2011 they were becoming more aggressive with their incursions into Arabia..

    In fact in 2001-2 the Saudis began relocating Saudi villages back from the border and developing a border fence.
     
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    KSA is dead much like Muscovy, Gulf states, Algeria , etc. what your Kaiser said when people tell him to take over (colonize ) some parts of MENA?
     
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