target's"tuck friendly" swim suits

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  1. FAW

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    Is it your belief that the only thing that makes a film not g rated is nudity?

    Have you ever heard of the rating changing due to adult themes, violence, profanity, smoking etc.?

    I find it odd if you really think that nudity is the only thing. Deep down, I suspect you know its not just about nudity as well.
     
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    False.

    Nobody has tried to make them vanish. That's a false narrative.

    The overwhelming majority of conservatives just don't want their personal desires pushed down our, or our kids, throats.

    Nobody gave a rats about them or their lifestyle until they started the typical activist action of shoving it down everybody's throat.
     
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    We aren't talking about a movie.
     
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    Translation=stop trying to make people aware that they exist.
     
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    Yes we are.

    I had said they need to stick to being G rated, and you responded by saying unless they are displaying nudes, they are [g rated]

    Had you forgotten already?
     
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    If someone likes BDSM, are they not aware that they exist unless their BDSM is celebrated? I say that BDSM people should keep this discussion of that part of their life to the bedroom, or at least with other like-minded adults.

    Target would not be the proper venue for that celebration either. To imply that someone isnt aware they exist unless they are celebrated is really bizarre.
     
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    I thought we were talking about target?
     
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    Target as a family friendly store being analogized to the movie rating system, specifically Rated G for General audiences.

    Did you forget participating in that discussion/analogy? I can cut and paste your words if you feel it necessary?
     
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    How do kids know what's going on?
     
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    Thank for your opinion
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    Everything You Need to Know About Pride Month
    Starting with the Stonewall Uprising in June 1969, Pride Month both commemorates and celebrates LGBTQ activism and culture through the years
    https://people.com/human-interest/pride-month-explained-pride-month-facts/
     
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    The event was canceled because the law was intentionally vague and there was no way they could guarantee no children would see the event on public streets.

    It’s the same reason Tennessee’s anti-drag law just got struck down, it was “unconstitutionally vague”.

    FL is doing this on purpose just like with the aptly named “do not say gay bill” where books containing gay characters are being banned just because the character is gay and not because of the content.

    Do you really think this is fooling anyone that isn’t desperate to be fooled?

    Gay and trans are not related.
    I don’t understand the trans thing but I have read enough from mental health organizations to know it is major issue and have no desire to revoke their rights or mock them.
     
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    But is it vague, really? Does a 4th of July or Veterans Day, Christmas or Diwali parade organizer shake in their boots over restricting sexual performances in front of minors? Does a band worry about their baton twirlers or cheer leaders?

    That's the point!!! There should be nothing even REMOTELY sexual about it. The fact they have to think “oh ****”, is the point. And if they have to think about it?? GOOD!!! They shouid have to think about why a law like this needed to be addressed when it NEVER was needed until recently. I wonder what changed. I’m wonder who started involving minors to events that they were never INVITED to before. What changed?
     
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    The funny thing is many people think cheerleaders are obscene due to their dress.

    That’s why laws shouldn’t be vague and it’s the reason the laws are vague. When you have laws that say a person just dancing in what has been determined to be the clothing of the opposite sex then that could be enough to trigger these laws.

    It’s why Tennessee’s was just struck down and I wouldn’t be surprised if Florida’s doesn’t follow.

    We gave people here saying the gay pride flag means something sexual.

    A person in drag at one of these events would likely be enough to face penalty in FL while it is much less revealing than what a child would see at a beach.

    As to “what changed” — nothing. Most prides are family friendly, many do not even have floats. Parents have determined that their children are mature enough to attend them.

    The only thing that has changed is Republicans have moved to trying to raise people’s children for them. So much for parental rights.
     
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    Because they hear their parents losing their minds whining about. Otherwise they’d have no clue it was the end of the world issue that it is.
     
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    Laws and morals are not one in the same by any stretch. Murder, rape and other crimes aren’t morals but basic human laws and rights altogether, you don’t need to be told that those are bad. It’s fundamentally wrong to murder or rape someone and it always has been, most normal people generally know this and don’t do it. Why? Because there’s always been a stiff penalty for doing either of those.

    Homosexuality, on the other hand is closer to being a moral choice in this context, and it’s socially acceptable to be gay or lesbian in a lot of places.Two different things here.
     
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    This may come as a surprise to you, but kids can read and understand marketing imagery amongst a great many other things. They actually ask questions. A lot of them.
     
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    So gay pride is not about gay pride?

    Does that make sense to you? Seriously?

    You can ignore whatever you like, just dont confuse that with the ability to pretend as if you are the arbiter of all things right and wrong. You have proven absolutely NOTHING. Literally nothing. Some flowery language does NOT therefore mean that gay pride is not about gay pride. Yeesh. That is preposterous.

    It would be nice to have a bunch of mind-numbed stooges to spread forth one's message no matter how ridiculous.
     
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    Welcome to the conversation.

    Laws ARE morals held by the majority that are forced onto the masses. As far as your stuff about homosexuality, that was never a part of my discussion or any post I replied to. I saw your statement about morals being forced upon the majority being authoritarianism, and I took that opportunity to correctly point out that laws ARE morals held by the majority that are forced upon society. Laws and morality are inextricably linked, whether you understand that or not. The only thing surprising here is that it has taken you this long to even start sniffing what this conversation is about. I get the feeling you dont pay a great deal of attention to what is written. It is as if you get stuck in this bickering mode and you dont see the forest for the treees.
     
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    So when kids see a display of rainbow items under the heading of pride they think of sex?
     
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    Well of course…duh
     
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    But what’s missing here is that laws, if broken or violated, are usually guaranteed to land someone in a lot of trouble like prison or the death sentence. Morals as a whole are little bit more flexible.
     
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    Kids also will likely not give a **** about marketing but kids just like pretty colors, cool designs, Fortnite and whatever basically makes them look cool to all their friends. I can promise you that any child is going to ask their parent if they can have a new Malibu Stacy or Transformers toy or stuffed animal, not about what the agenda is for why Target is doing something.
     
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    Lol.

    Are they that desperate for attention? Answer, yes, yes they are.

    And no, they went way beyond just being visible. They demanded everybody else bend to accommodate them.

    They expected everybody to accept their demanded accommodations, or opposition was deemed some form of phobic.

    No. I don't have to call you by your preferred pronoun, no I don't have tons accept you entering a certain locker room, no I don't have to accept you out competing gender specific sports, and hell no o don't have to accept you indocternating my kids.

    If that makes me some phobic.. fine, I really don't give a rats. I still won't accept it.
     
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    Is that all they see? You mean there arent numorous shirts proclaiming things such as trans and proud and the like at this display? This is just rainbows?

    Are you sure?
     
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    Kids are capable of reading and understanding.

    Stop acting like they are incapable of absorbing a marketing message.
     

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