Teacher beheaded in Paris suburb after showing cartoons of Prophet Mohammed to class

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    There is evidence that reinforces Christian beliefs everywhere, but you're not going to see that evidence because you're are limited by pride, otherwise you wouldn't expect it to come to you.
     
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    That’s not unseen.
     
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    there’s confirmation bias, but no evidence whatsoever of any gods, xtian or otherwise. I guess science is no somehow full of pride and not the Method.
     
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    Islamic truths are Mohamed's cultural standards of his day and age. The dark angel assured Mohamed and his followers, through the mesmerizing verses of the Quran, the superiority of their own contemporary standards over that of others. To me it's a form of 'supremacism' akin to nationalism - and like nationalism it's a capital offense for a Muslim change their faith.

    Anyway there's a different reality between Christianity and our Creator God, where man is given a free will and choice, and Islam where submission is paramount.
     
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    I'm not sure why a Greek Orthodox priest would be attacked:

     
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    The priest, a Greek citizen, had a long-running legal dispute with a former monk who had been convicted of defamation, according to French media reports. Anti-terrorism prosecutors are not investigating the case as this incident is linked to the victim's personal dispute with a former monk, who is a prime suspect.
     
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    There is evidence of the supernatural, and the efficacy of prayers that go against all mathematical probabilities. At least in my experiences.
     
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    I had dreams that gave me information
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    The man who shot the Greek priest was found in a Kebab shop in a Turkish neighborhood, so he's probably Turkish and has to do with Turkey's illegal claims of Greek islands and territorial waters and the friction in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean. The anti Greek propaganda in Turkey has been rampant, so incidents like this are to be expected.

    Americans were warned last week to be careful in Turkey and to avoid locations where foreigners congregate, and yesterday Germany stopped all citizens from going to Turkey.





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    A man "of Mediterranean appearance", answering the police description of the gunman who had shot and seriously injured a Greek Orthodox priest in #Lyon, has been arrested in a kebab shop in the city / #Lyonattack #terrorism #France
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    The suspect was released today and the police said the man is homeless and needs psychiatric care.

    According to the 'Greek City Times', the fake news media in France, alleged that the suspect was a Far Right political candidate and former Greek Orthodox monk - which is denied by Church members. They say there was no friction between the priest and anyone.

    Anyway here's what a board member said, so it probably does have to do with Turkish territorial claims and the situation in the Eastern Mediterranean as well as Greece's connection with France in that regard:

    “I do not know who committed this crime. What I do know is that last Sunday Father Nikolaos told me that he was jogging on the banks of the Rhône and that five Algerians or Moroccans surrounded him, made fun of him, and in the end beat him up and took his cross,”


     
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    Thanks to everyone for the updates to the Greek Orthodox priest attack story!
     
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    That’s not evidence that there are “concepts that are unseen to the naked eye” only evidence that those people are dbags with violent imaginary friends. They’re sick in the head.
     
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    There is no scientific evidence of the supernatural. But you can believe whatever makes you happy, those are all must feelings.
     
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    Yet it can be argued that the Unseen forces of the universe behooved the event (the decapitation) to manifest.
     
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    Wrong, you must be speaking of Judaism and Christianity, which cannot be considered to be reflections of Reality “in an of itself.” The Qur’an is pure; the contents found in the Bible and Torah are knowledge passed down through centuries, and thus the Light has been tainted by human ego. Christianity itself was compiled by a white, Western mindset.

    Certainly, because the Qur'an is the perfect reflection on Reality. What you see in the Quran is only what you see in your own self. This is why Western Europe has invariably seen violence and sex, because it’s really them that’s obsessed with that stuff.


    All things in creation submit to The Reality (Allah). How can they not, given that Allah is the only Truth and Source?

    A Muslim is one who readily and consciously submits to the Truth. Free will is an illusion.
     
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    That cannot be argued by an adult as its supernatural in nature. The only ones who sponsored this event is the dbags who committed this atrocity. Let’s lay the blame where it belongs and not at some imaginary characters.
     
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    And yet, Mohamed did convert with the sword, while Christian Disciples and the Saints that came after them converted through the preaching and miracles given by God. In many accounts, the conversions were after their martyrdom, which proves the enlightenment given them had to be a natural outcome of their excessive love towards God and humanity.

    The shrines in Europe are where the Saints were martyred, and this is why they were found all over Europe at one time. It's also why pilgrimages became such a necessity in an age when medical cures - other than from witches, didn't exist.


    The energy emanating from Gods Holy Spirit unites and binds the world, otherwise it would start falling apart - something that it's starting to do with the earthquakes, weather, etc. As for the West seeing their own faults into others, well there is a culture clash. There always was, and it confuses people.

    I find this obsession with Mohamed marrying a young girl silly, since poor people many times had to sell their children into slavery to keep their other children from starving. What I don't see is Mohamed as a prophet, since Christianity is based on a acquiring a spiritual unity with the Divine. For someone to be a Saint/Prophet means that their excessive virtue has freed them from all physical needs and desires, so that they are spiritualized before death. Basically they are living in two worlds at the same time and because of that, are given amazing charisms by God as visual proof - but I won't go into that.

    As for Christianity having been formed by a Western mind, well a Greek mind would be more like it since the language is very flexible compared to other languages - which means concepts can be understood and formed more readily.


    Christianity is a combination of Greek thought and Jewish morality. The Greek thought came with Alexanders sojourn into the East. It united Greek classical thought with Eastern concepts, so that Alexander is considered part of God's plan for salvation. No doubt another part of God's plan was the communication that came about from the Roman Empire, otherwise Christianity would not have been able to grow. This doesn't mean though that Christianity grew by the Roman sword, since all violence is considered a sin. Only that Rome facilitated its growth.


    What I have noticed is that whenever people come out of a Church, no matter where the church is, or what the denomination might be, they always have a sense of peace within them - which no doubt emanates from the love and peace of the Holy Spirit within them. Yet when Muslims exit a mosque on Friday, many times they come out passionate and angry.

    This is why the Holy Spirit is called the Comforter. He helps people overcome their passions and gives them peace - something that is sorely needed in the Middle East, where anger and hatreds reign supreme - regardless of whether it is justified or not.


     
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    No, his various capacities simply included that of a military-man, as was the case with Moses.


    Perhaps if you take a look at the Sufi tradition, you will see a starkly different picture. Sufism is the spiritual and mystical dimension of Islam, and in this creed you will find that all the teachings of the Sufi saints are traced back to the Prophet Muhammad. The Prophet taught ihsan, which is the purification of spiritual character, and this is what Sufis are mainly engaged in.

    Christians believe that Jesus was the only entity on earth to walk on water, when this interpretation is just a reflection of the Western ego that Christianity is inundated with. Plenty of Muslim and Sufi saints have walked on water, it’s just that Christians don’t see the real significance behind the phenomena.

    Sufis teach love, and they are known as healers of the heart. Unfortunately, egoic manifestations have taken root in Muslim societies, hence the suppression of Sufi love.

    Allah is the only One, and Love is holding everything together. Let go of your identity, and dissolve in the Eternal Love of Allah.
     
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    That's funny, 'smug Gallic pseudo-intellectual bigotry':
     
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    I'm not denying that some people are geared to be more virtuous, although I think it's a little bit more difficult to achieve a higher plane outside of Christianity.

    Actually Jesus was not the only Person to walk on water, most of the Saints could, and were often seen elevated. But that can also occur with magic and witchcraft. Witches did fly, as did gurus when they reached a certain level. This is why excessive virtue, which means living a sacrificial and non carnal life before death, is a perquisite for declaring someone a Saint. It's not easy, because almost all Saints were calumniated.

    Someone once asked why God allows it, and the answer was that He wants to lessen their pride. Anyway it's the miracles after one's death that establishes their Sanctity. It's a long process.
     
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    Submission to Satan.
     
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    I like this idea.
     
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    Wait, WHAT????
     
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    Yes. That's the "A" to "Z" of it, and any enlightening knowledge that has been achieved since then is a "lie".
     
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    Please forgive me if my paraphrasing has distorted its content but It looks like you are saying that "someone" asked why God allows carnal activity. Have I misunderstood it?
     

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