Tell an Australian what the argument is against building a border wall.

Here is an idea for you: why don't you research it? That's what "The Internets" allow you to do. I mean, wouldn't you agree that using me instead of wikipedia should reach a point where it becomes tiresome?

I really don't understand how anybody could come to a forum to post "opinions" about how undocumented immigrants enter the U.S without even bothering to google how they come into the U.S. It's a sure-fire way to make a fool of yourself.

Hilarious!

Google won't kill you! But it might help you avoid the pain of making embarrassing statements like the above.

 

It seems they don't want the wall because they want easy access.

They mention tunnles and ladders, it mashes me wonder if they live in a building with walls and doors that lock.

 

Ever thought about how they would transport a big enough ladder to the wall? Not even @Golem is suggesting ladders.

 

Uh.....ever heard of a truck. You have to be kidding with this stuff. It is not illegal to drive all along the wall and drop a hundred ladders if you want to

 

Are you saying that one of these happens in Israel?

Are you saying they are still used?

 

I consider a church a building which is incapable of thinking anything.

 

Without detection?

 

Nope. The person I responded to was.

I would assume so....

 

When did I say building? You really don't think that "church" can refer to the people who attend it?

 

Actually, no. This is what they actually said:

Where in that do they mention engineers?

Why would tunnels still be active which are known to border patrol?

 

Do you think I'm talking about ANY means of traveling from Mexico to the USA? You should know, that I'm specifically talking about LAND crossings, not air or road! I would've thought that was obvious considering we're talking about a WALL which has no bearing on air or road!

 

Not in the context of your question.

 

Don't play "cute" You said "People crossing the border without help".

You're just trolling.

 

Yeah, but I was just making sure that you didn't think that included air or road. You still haven't confirmed. As far as land crossings go, isn't it true that people either cross with or without help?

 

Okay, name a GROUP OF PEOPLE other than Westboro Baptist.

 

I can definitely certify that people cross the boarder by land either with or without help. As I agree that people have sex either with or without condoms, and that they eat salad with or without croutons. Also that some post here with or without bothering to do any basic research, which forces them to make up excuses on the fly; and also with or without a point. And that on both of the last two instances you are one of the latter.

 

I already did: Extreme right Evangelicals.

You seem to be looking for specific "groups". If that's what you're looking for, you can start your research (I have no time or interest to help) with these

Abiding Truth Ministries
Alliance Defending Freedom
American College of Pediatricians
American Family Association
American Vision
Americans for Truth About Homosexuality
Atlah Worldwide Church
Center for Family and Human Rights
lcedon Foundation
Dove World Outreach Center
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Family Research Council
Family Research Institute
Heterosexuals Organized for a Moral Environment
Illinois Family Institute
Liberty Counsel
MassResistance
Mission: America
Pacific Justice Institute
Parents Action League
Public Advocate of the United States
SaveCalifornia.com
Traditional Values Coalition
United Families International
Westboro Baptist Church
World Congress of Families
You Can Run But You Cannot Hide International

 

They ALL say that gays are trying to destroy us?

 

You said you wanted one. As I said, you do the research. It's irrelevant to my point.

 

I'm afraid what you and the rest on the left don't seem to understand, is that you actually have to back up your ludicrous claims with evidence. You have BLINDLY provided a list which the extreme left, low standards SPLC has come up with and you've given it no actual thought yourself I'm sure. The SPLC who actually list Muslims as anti-Muslim extremists! Yeah, I'm pretty sure those pieces of sh*t can't be taken seriously!

 

Okay, so when I asked you how else you believe aliens are crossing the border other than with the help of "coyotes" (other than the obvious "without them") why could you not answer?

What excuses am I supposed to have made up exactly?

Oh but I do have a point. Earlier when I made the point about the scumbag piece of sh*t alien who killed Kate Steinle, not being able to crawl his worthless ass back into the country to commit that crime, your SOLE argument was simply, pathetically and laughably, "tunnels." Tunnels! Haha. So I'm trying my best to get you make an actual argument because simply saying "tunnels" isn't actually an argument, you actually have to expand on that explaining how the VERY slim possibility of even getting CLOSE to a tunnel border crossing means that aliens should be able to simply walk over the border. Just TRY!

 

And what claim would that be?

 

Because you haven't stated your point.

For example

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-a-border-wall.509418/page-26#post-1068418091

Just about anything you write without stating your point is an excuse for not stating a point.

Oh... that was your point?

Well... that can be settled easily: Yes. The guy appears to be a scumbag. And no... if this hypothetical fantasy "wall" had existed (or even had the possibility of existing), he could have found many many ways to come back into the country (tunnels, planes, boats, swimming, ...)

So that's that. See? It's easy when you state what your point is.

 

Why did I need to immediately state a point? My point relied on you answering some critical questions first so that you could be CHALLENGED by my point. That's how debate works.

You mean commercial boat and plane travel? And swimming? Are you serious? You think its realistic for Mexicans to swim to the US? Oh come on now.

 

The claim that "Extreme right Evangelicals" think that gays are trying to destroy us. You can't just copy and paste
the ludicrous, uneducated SPLC list. That's not actually an argument I hate to break it to you.