Texas House has gone off the deep end

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  1. Nwolfe35

    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    The Texas House has passed HB 2690 which, among other restrictions on abortion, wants to prevent Internet Service Providers from allowing any information that "assists or facilitates efforts to obtain an elective abortion or an abortion-inducing drug."

    In case you think I'm blowing what this bill says out of proportion

    Sec.A171A.301.AARESTRICTIONS ON ACCESS TO CERTAIN INFORMATION AND MATERIALS ACCESSIBLE THROUGH CERTAIN INTERNET WEBSITES.

    Each Internet service provider that provides Internet services in this state shall make every reasonable and technologically feasible effort to block Internet access to information or material intended to assist or facilitate efforts to obtain an elective abortion or an abortion-inducing drug, including information or material accessible through:

    (1) the following Internet websites:
    (A) aidaccess.org;
    (B) heyjane.co;
    (C) plancpills.org;
    (D) mychoix.co;
    (E) justthepill.com; and
    (F) carafem.org;

    (2) an Internet website, platform, or other interactive computer service operated by or on behalf of an abortion provider or abortion fund;

    (3) an Internet website, platform, or other interactive computer service for downloading any application or software for use on a computer or electronic device that is designed to assist or facilitate efforts to obtain an elective abortion or an abortion-inducing drug; or

    (4) an Internet website, platform, or other interactive computer service that allows or enables those who provide or aid or abet elective abortions, or those who manufacture, mail, distribute, transport, or provide abortion-inducing drugs, to collect money, digital currency, resources, or any other thing of value.

    If turned into a law that would mean that a woman who lives in Texas seeking an elective abortion in Oklahoma would not be able to access any website hosted by an Oklahoma abortion clinic or even a website that helps make an appointment at an Oklahoma abortion clinic (even if said website is not operated by the abortion clinic) Heck, I think this could be interpreted to mean that they would need to block search engine results that give the phone number, email address, physical address or hours of operation to an out of state abortion clinic.

    How long until Texas officially changes it's name to the Republic of Gilead?
     
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    They don't require internet service companies to block access to sites that can teach you how to make a bomb or a homemade gun or help you coordinate violence with others. But abortion information is apparently too much for them. Yeah, these are some level-headed folks alright....:no::roll:
     
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    CORRECTION

    The Bill has NOT been passed, simply introduced. Even so, it's still insane.
     
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    :) Yup, the righties want to ban abortion to provide corporations with cheap child labor.....remember , they only value "innocent life" when it's in the womb.....once it's born it's "let's screw over kids!!!"...
     
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    The ex-husband presented in court photos of her text messages with her 3 girlfriends.
    Are these texts admissible as evidence without having a warrant?


    'Texas man sues 3 women for helping his ex-wife obtain abortion pill'

    Source: Reuters

    "A Texas man has filed a wrongful death lawsuit accusing three women of helping his ex-wife obtain abortion pills, in one of the first major legal challenges under a state abortion ban since the United States Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.

    Plaintiff Marcus Silva filed the lawsuit on Thursday in Galveston County, Texas, alleging that three Texas women are liable for wrongful death because they helped his ex-wife obtain abortion pills to terminate a pregnancy in July 2022. The civil lawsuit is seeking damages of $1 million against each woman.

    Since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June 2022, eliminating federal abortion rights, Texas has been one of about a dozen states that has enforced a total abortion ban. It is illegal to "aid or abet" abortions in Texas, which the lawsuit claims defendants Jackie Noyola, Amy Carpenter and Aracely Garcia did.

    "Defendants Noyola, Carpenter, and Garcia all knew that they were aiding or abetting a self-managed abortion, which is a wrongful act and a criminal act of murder under Texas law," the lawsuit argued."

    Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/te...his-ex-wife-obtain-abortion-pills-2023-03-12/
     
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    This is huge, everyone's in battle mode.

    Yet pharmaceutical companies are zillionaires with the best and brightest scum of the earth lawyers ,which is bad news for the christo-fascist lawyers the states use and for this biased Christo-fascist Trump appointed judge.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_J._Kacsmaryk#Federal_judicial_service

    Judge in abortion-pill lawsuit schedules hearing but delays announcing it
    Source: Washington Post

    "The Texas judge who could undo government approval of a key abortion drug has scheduled the first hearing in the case for Wednesday but took unusual steps to keep it from being publicized, according to people familiar with the plans.

    The hearing will be an opportunity for lawyers for the Justice Department, the company that makes the drug and the conservative group that is challenging it to argue their positions before U.S. District Court Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk. After they do, the judge could rule at any time.

    Kacsmaryk scheduled the hearing during a call with attorneys Friday, said multiple people familiar with the call, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it. Kacsmaryk said he would delay putting the hearing on the public docket until late Tuesday to try to minimize disruptions and possible protests, and asked the lawyers on the call not to share information about it before then, the people said.

    Public access to federal court proceedings is a key principle of the American judicial system, and Kacsmaryk’s apparent delay in placing the hearing on the docket is highly unusual. The judge and his staff did not respond to emails requesting comment on Saturday evening."


    Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/11/texas-abortion-pill-hearing-kacsmaryk/
     
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    Hopefully this judge-shopped judge ends up where Trump's other appointed judge-shopped judge, Cannon ended up..booted.

    ACLU


    NEWS & COMMENTARY
    'What to Know About the Abortion Case that Could Ban Mifepristone'
    "A baseless lawsuit targeting mifepristone could effectively ban the most commonly used method of abortion — "

    snip:

    "The case was filed by an organization known as Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), which has been labeled a hate group, and helped write the Mississippi law which the Supreme Court used to overturn Roe v. Wade. They are going so far as to use a 150-year-old anti-obscenity law, the Comstock Act, to argue that it’s illegal to send or receive mifepristone, and any other medication or device used to provide an abortion, through the mail. That’s a wild claim that has never been accepted.

    But if these claims are so wild and unprecedented, why are we concerned?

    Here’s the thing: ADF was able to hand-select their judge and just happened to pick one who, before he was appointed to the bench by President Trump, worked for an organization that represents business owners who discriminate against LGBTQ people and public school employees who coerce students to pray on school grounds.

    And since his appointment to the bench, he has issued a series of radical decisions on everything from immigrants’ rights to trans justice to birth control. In fact, the judge has said it was an “open question” whether politicians could make it a crime to use contraception. That’s right — whether states can outlaw birth control. This is the judge who will decide whether mifepristone can remain on the market.

    We won’t let this happen without a fight"

    cont:

    https://www.aclu.org/news/reproductive-freedom/abortion-case-lawsuit-ban-mifepristone
     
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    hogwash.jpg
     
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    According to the Department of labor, not only is migrant child labor running rampant, but there has been a 70% increase in child labor violations, just since 2018! Rather than fine those businesses, however, numerous Republican-led states have decided to loosen the rules. For example, in Arkansas-- where it was already legal for 14 year olds to work-- Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders has just signed legislation which will eliminate the requirement that the state verify the ages, of workers under 16.

    A GOP Ohio bill, allows minors to work, year round, until 9 P.M. But Iowa, is really going at it, whole hog (if you'll pardon the expression). Republicans have just sponsored a bill, allowing:

    A) 16 & 17 year olds, to serve alcohol;

    B) 14 & 15 year olds, to work in meat-packing plants; and

    C) students to
    work in mines, if the jobs are part of a "work-based, learning program."

    Go to the 6:15 mark
     
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    Seriously your posing a late night babbler as a reference?
     
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    He is quoting a NY Times article. But if you didn't have the attention span to listen long enough to hear that much, at the beginning of that part of the video, what is the point in my linking the article?
     
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    What can one say?

    I think the term “pig ignorant ********s” might come close. Everywhere in the world and throughout history where this level of so called “abortion legislation” is enacted the result is brutalised women. Illegal abortionists don’t care about outcomes. Another problem with it legal is that it soon becomes an underground of graft corruption and racketeering
     
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    See how that works...bitter childish ""MAN""( ex-husband) uses that bill to get revenge on an ex-wife....


    THAT is what Republicans want...and, of course, more taxes to pay for all that frivilous court time...
     
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    DUH, and THIS:
    According to the Department of labor, not only is migrant child labor running rampant, but there has been a 70% increase in child labor violations, just since 2018! Rather than fine those businesses, however, numerous Republican-led states have decided to loosen the rules. For example, in Arkansas-- where it was already legal for 14 year olds to work-- Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders has just signed legislation which will eliminate the requirement that the state verify the ages, of workers under 16.

    A GOP Ohio bill, allows minors to work, year round, until 9 P.M. But Iowa, is really going at it, whole hog (if you'll pardon the expression). Republicans have just sponsored a bill, allowing:

    A) 16 & 17 year olds, to serve alcohol;

    B) 14 & 15 year olds, to work in meat-packing plants; and

    C) students to work in mines, if the jobs are part of a "work-based, learning program."""""""""""""""""""


    Proud to be a Republican who cares for all those "innocent lives" ONLY when they're in the womb ????
     
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    It's costing the ex-husband zilch.
    These fascist lawyers and politicians are chomping at the bit waiting for customers like Silva.

    Hopefully the ACLU and some high power lawyers/organizations get behind the 3 women.
    Also, in Texas there's no abortion for rape or INCEST.
    It doesn't get any morally sicker or more evil/sadistic than making sure a 13 yr old must have her daddy's baby.

    "Marcus Silva is represented by lawyers Briscoe Cain, who is a Republican member of the Texas House of Representatives, and Jonathan Mitchell, who is credited as an architect of the six-week ban in Texas that took effect in September 2021. That law banned abortion starting at six weeks of pregnancy, and it introduced a novel enforcement mechanism; it invited citizens to file civil lawsuits against anyone they believed violated the law by aiding, abetting or providing an abortion to a woman past that point, for damages exceeding $10,000.'
     
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    There is nothing more evil, sick, twisted than someone who wants women punished for being raped....where do these REPUBLICAN "people" come from ???
     
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    NYT is pretty much a LW propaganda outlet.
     
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    :) If you think so find an unbiased source that says differently....
     
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    Why, would it change anything? Funny story: some of the younger "journalists" at the NYT are on the verge of revolt because the paper hasn't gone FAR ENOUGH to the left.
     
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    So does it change anything????
     
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    Weak claim, that only portrays yourself as a spouter of conspiracy nonsense. We are not talking about a NYT editorial-- their factual news reporting is rated very highly, by all rating agencies, and by most everyday citizens. So, produce an evidential argument, as to why their reporting of bills introduced into state legislatures should not be trusted, or you might just as well go back to watching your farcical FOX "News."
     
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    I guess you haven't heard that many of the younger reporters and editors at the NYT were threatening go to on strike if the paper didn't move further to the left
    . Nope, we're NOT talking about editorial content - we're talking about slanting NEWS REPORTING. Kinda like you just did by saying I watch FOX News - which I don't. See your factual reporting is a friggin' lie.
     
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    Both parties want to block information. This is why we should never allow government to control information.
     
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    Source?

    That is a specious argument, and a potential red flag, about your interpretive skills: my comment about FOX News, was not my "reporting" this, as a fact, about you. I only worked in the reference, as a way of drawing a comparison between the two media sources. To be sure you understand: I was saying that, anyone who takes anything they hear through FOX News (even second or third hand), at face value, is in no position to throw any stones at the New York Times.
     
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    Never mind. you're into ad hominems attacks. I'm outta here. Can't wait to see what your next foolishness will be.
     
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