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The Answer To Our Problems, EV's

Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by joyce martino, Jul 9, 2022.

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    Jack Hays, Jan 21, 2023
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    Polydectes, Feb 1, 2023
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    A win is a win.
     
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    But it's GM

    My pessimism for gm aside, this is predictable.
     
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    Critics: EU’s Euro 7 Vehicle Emissions Directive Will Make Automobiles A Luxury For The Rich!
    By P Gosselin on 12. February 2023

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    “Mobility on the road to become elitist, luxury good!”

    In November, 2022, the EU Commission presented its Euro 7 vehicle emissions standard proposal. The new directive would mandate new vehicles to become cleaner and apply to all newly registered vehicles as of July 2025.

    “We cannot accept a society where exposure to air pollution is responsible for more than 300,000 premature deaths a year in the EU-27 alone,” said Executive Vice President Margrethe Vestager, responsible for competition policy, at the launch of the proposal. The new rules will help us breathe cleaner air and make the sector greener and more resilient. We must stick to the goal of the European Green Deal and set global standards.”

    But critics warn Euro 7 will make cars far more expensive, turning them into a luxury good affordable only to the rich. The EU Commission is in fact striving to restrict general individual mass mobility under the guise of clean air and climate protection.

    “In short, driving a car must become so expensive that some of the customers with smaller wallets will forego buying their own car. And they do so voluntarily,” explains Tichys Einblick. . . .
     
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    Jack Hays, Feb 14, 2023
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    The answer to EV problems gasoline and Diesel.
     
    Polydectes, Feb 14, 2023
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    I can see electric vehicles being used before fleet vehicles that's probably the best application for them. Right now they seem to be something that people who are enthusiastic about them want. And these people therefore are willing to make compromises to the point where they don't even see them as compromises.

    The average basic person that is not a car enthusiast not an electric car enthusiast is not going to overlook this. It's not a quirk of a neat machine it's a pain in the ass that they have to deal with. There's a reason why the most popular car in the US is a Toyota Corolla and not something made in Italy or Germany. Nice people that buy those cars love them for all their little quirks but for an average driver is there a nightmare.

    So we're going to run into the same problem with electric cars. The predominant problem is charging it's not with a car itself. Many people don't own their homes or even live in houses. To all of these people it's off the table because whatever convenience you get out of them is just evaporated because you can't do home charging. That is enough to nail the coffin shut in my opinion. It's not a practical thing to own.

    The extra sealant to waterproof the coffin is battery material we're running short on it already. I know there is the what if we make a solid state battery which we haven't figured out how to do yet. And we don't even know if it's possible or if such batteries will perform to the point where they're acceptable in electric cars.

    And then we have power grid issues which are a distant third problem.

    So much so I don't even think it's any value talking about it. In order to have the pressure on the grid we need most people to accept the shortcomings of an electric car which is already for me a bridge too far.
     
    Polydectes, Feb 14, 2023
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    Jack Hays, Feb 18, 2023
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    These government seems to forget the idea of letting the economy decide but that would reduce their power and money grabbing decision that are based on delusions about the climate.
     
    Sunsettommy, Feb 18, 2023
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    Right, The Globe and Mail, Electric Vehicles Do Struggle During Winter
    ECONOMICS AND POLICY FEBRUARY 21, 2023

    A recent post by Canada’s The Globe and Mail discusses the difficulties electric vehicle (EVs) drivers have experienced in extremely cold weather. The Globe and Mail’s story is a cautionary tale for people who live in some of the northmost regions of the world, who regularly experience extreme cold. EVs, because of their reliance on batteries, struggle in the cold, with large declines in range and towing capabilities, which are often needed in the northern expanses.

    In the article, “In northern Norway’s bitter cold, the durability of electric vehicles is put to the test,” Norwegian journalist Nathan Vanderklippe reports on recent cold-weather tests of EVs in the Lapland Proving Ground. After a night of -40°C, three of five cars wouldn’t start.

    While not exactly an anti-EV article, it does describe some of the dangers people in the far north face with vehicles that are less reliable in the cold. Vanderklippe interviewed an ambulance driver from Hesseng, whose “coverage area extends to Bugøynes, a drive of nearly 100 kilometres.” The ambulance driver reports that he does not trust current EVs to get the job done. . . .
     
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    20230205_111328.jpg I'll keep my $56k diesel Jeep.
     
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    Mark Tapscott has an interesting piece today at PJ Media titled     “Three Huge Reasons Why Electric Vehicles Will Never Dominate American Roads.” Tapscott’s reasons are all good ones, which I would summarize as (1) despite vast government subsidies and rebates, EVs are still far more expensive than gasoline-powered cars, (2) even with greatly increased sales, the existing gasoline-powered cars will not go away and will still be on the road and the dominant vehicles in 2035 and even 2050, and (3) the increased amounts of necessary minerals for the batteries, from lithium to nickel to cobalt, are never going to materialize.

    Are Electric Vehicles About To Sweep The Country?
    February 23, 2023/ Francis Menton

    • It seems like all the smart people have made up their minds that the future of automobiles belongs to electric vehicles.

    • In August 2022, California, by regulation, adopted a ban on gasoline-powered cars by 2035; and in September 2022, New York promptly followed with its own ban, also by regulation, and also set for 2035. And at the federal level, in 2021 the Biden Administration ordered that all agencies move toward 100% procurement of electric vehicles, also by 2035. Meanwhile, by means of a thicket of regulations — from vehicle mileage standards to pollution caps and more — the administration overtly seeks to force manufacturers to convert their lineups to EVs as fast as possible.

    • So, are electric vehicles about to sweep the country and become the dominant form of transportation? I bet against it. This is just a specific instance of the general principle that it is always wise to bet against central planning of the economy.
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