The Answer To Our Problems, EV's

Sorry but you are both proving that you are not attuned to this issue. One positive of this conversation is that I never paid much attention to CAFE history, requirements, and expectations. Now that I’ve studied this issue further, along with recent statements and milestones put forth by the Big 3, it’s obvious where they are heading. PHEVs.

They’ve already publicly stated that they are heading in this direction, and that the PHEVs will be available in 2026, just as the new CAFE standards go into effect. You can still drive your monster trucks, but getting an average of 100 MPG.

And you will continue to obstruct the vision of more sensible drivers, even when you don’t need this “Work” capacity.

 

I am atuned to saving lives. Small light cars get higher gas mileage but are death traps. CAFE standards trade reduced CO2 emissions for human lives. That’s a good thing?

 

PHEVs will keep them ahead of EPAs EV mandate and nothing else. And when the mandate inevitably falls, PHEVs will go back to being niche vehicles.

Just like EVs.

 

This is a pretty cool site. You can enter the year and make of your vehicle, along with your zip code, and it will calculate the CO2 emissions of your vehicle. If you enter a New Energy Vehicle (EV or PHEV) it will factor in the sources of electricity for your zip code. If you have a higher renewable mix in your area, it will show the lesser emissions. For example, CA and TX show much smaller emissions per NEV (it also shows the US average electricity mix). Cool as a cucumber!!!

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?year=2018&vehicleId=39190&zipCode=78704&action=bt3

 

Toyota calls out the EV mandate.
Major Automaker Exec Flatly Says Liberals’ EV ‘Mandates’ Are ‘Impossible’ To Meet
Ireland Owens
“I have not seen a forecast by anyone … government or private, anywhere that has told us that that number is achievable. At this point, it looks impossible,” Hollis said…

Toyota’s North American Chief Operating Officer (COO) Jack Hollis criticized U.S. policies promoting electric vehicle adoption (EV) on Friday, according to Bloomberg.

The Toyota COO said that electric vehicle policies are “de facto mandates” that are not in sync with consumer demand, according to Bloomberg. Hollis also said that EV mandates such as those in California are impossible to meet, according to CNBC.

“The whole EV ecosystem is ahead of the consumer,” Hollis told reporters Friday, “It’s not in alignment with consumers. It’s just not.”. . . .

 

There is no EV mandate. Toyota needs to grow some kahunas.

 

Now you’re going to bitch about PHEVs too? They exceed everything any ICE vehicle can do, in performance. If you are able to purchase a F-150 PHEV, it will outperform an ICE F-150 in every vehicular aspect.

 

Price is the only feature where the F-150 PHEV excels.

 

A total lie, because there is no F-150 PHEV.

 

I believe "cojones" was intended. Illiteracy is a growing problem in our country.

 

Per your post - if there was.

 

Cool! Yes I do not have total Spanish literacy.

 

Exactly! So maybe you want to revise your false claim, because it makes questionable sense under any circumstances?

 

The claim stands. And that is the reason that there is not an F-150 PHEV. The only feature in which it would excel is price even with subsidies.

 

That's a pretty simple calculation. Take the MPG from the window sticker, invert it, and then do the units conversions so they match.

The only real trick is knowing that a gallon of gasoline yields 19.6 pounds of CO2.

Easy peasy and really not that cool.

 

That’s part of it. But it’s not quite that simple. You’re also inputting a zip code. The program is looking at the renewable energy mix in the area (wind, solar, hydro, etc), and this data would need to be updated as more renewables are added. I put my 2018 Volt in the formula with Zip Codes from CA, TX, Iowa and Colorado; and the emissions numbers were lower in that order.

 

Oh, so it's more irrelevant modeling searching desperately for meaning.

Got it.

 

Such negativity. You would think that your superiors would want a more positive outlook.

 

What superiors?

 

Stupid is as stupid does.
The Hummer EV SUV Disaster
Jonathan Gitlin, Ars Technica

 

The ~ 3000 lb battery is ridiculous. Plus the entire vehicle weighs ~ 9000 lbs.

 

Hummers are Trump vehicles. Somebody drives one around here, with a Trump flag. They were also the vehicles in the notorious Trump caravans, targeting Liberals. The Alpha version, released in 2006 weighed over 8000 pounds. “Drill baby drill”.

 

Caravans of Hummers driven by Trump supporters with flags accosting Liberals???

Oh my!!

 

I'm shocked!

What did you do? Hide under your bed?

 

The waste is emblematic of the policies. Also 4 more years of skyrocketing deficits, just like last time.