The Apollo Missions and the ludicrous numbers to fake them all!

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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Here is just a single deployable ALSEP experiment:
     
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    Many ALSEPs on the lunar surface were only deployable by a human as designed by the independent science teams who supplied them. No amount of hoax-noise can explain how they were deployed with bullshit-unmanned craft with no supporting evidence.
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    NASA - NSSDCA - Data Collection - Details
    "This data set contains the complete set of data identified in Nakamura (1992), 'Catalog of Lunar Seismic Data from Apollo Passive Seismic Experiment on 8-mm Video Cassette (Exabyte) Tapes': All lunar seismic data recorded at the Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, and 16 Apollo Lunar Surface Experiment (ALSEP) stations from 1969 to 1977; data from all the other ALSEP experiments including Apollo 17 from 1 March 1976 to 30 September 1977; and seismology and meteorology data from the Viking 2 Lander on the Martian surface from 1976 to 1978."

    An astonishing amount of data!
     
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    How do you know it's not bogus data? Couldn't NASA have just made up some data and said it was real?
     
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    That post displays just how little you have looked at the evidence. It is THE most absurd suggestion to suggest that NASA faked continuously streamed data from multiple experiments for nearly a decade!

    Why don't you actually go and read some of the independent reports made from the data!?
     
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    That sounds like something they could lie about or simulate.
     
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    An utterly ludicrous suggestion based on hand-waving away GIGABYTES of data sent for nearly a decade FROM the exact place on the Moon that the experiments were placed.

    What makes this whole, pathetic, never-ending hoax crap even more ridiculous is that after supposedly faking one mission, they went for another and another and another......each one more complex than the last! So many needless "risks", so many extra people needing to be involved. It was absurd then and every decade of faultless data - even more absurd.

    As well as receiving real time data to the people who requested the experiments, NASA also copied the raw data onto tapes. Thought to be unarchived, they exist on 40 tapes that have been converted to online digitally readable pages!

    56,000 of them.
    https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/lunar_data/


    This evidence is just one facet of the missions you have no understanding of and shows clearly that NOTHING will EVER be enough. An objective honest person would look at this, the rocks, unfakeable gravitational motion, thousands of images shot in space of the Moon, the Earth (that ALL correspond EXACTLY to the time and place each mission would have been!) Such precision pre-digital age was not possible even WITH software like Stellarium that confirms this 100%. Images on the surface that match topographical data from countries like Japan. So, very, VERY much more that ALWAYS holds consistency.

    @Scott How many people do you figure THAT completely ridiculous claim would need?
     
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    That's what we read but is it true?

    I was thinking the same thing about you.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...bers-to-fake-them-all.612910/#post-1074386538
     
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    Impossible. Really just a complete waste of time. Any viewers who think this above statement isn't just absurd denial, feel free to make your case.
    https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/static/history/alsj/ALSEP-1969FamHandout.pdf

    We're not getting any case here. The recipients of said data who wrote thousands of papers on various data prove it. Although NASA also collected data, so did they via a published download link!
    https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&q=apollo+alsep&btnG=

    Try and imagine how little that means to me. You have not presented one single thing I haven't totally taken apart completely. Even now here we are with another thread derail! Instead of supplying numbers of people as requested, all you are doing is denying it happened when it provably did!
     
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    Yep. Exactly like that. Most of the 3 pages involved you doing everything but answer the debunking. I really have no words to describe what is going on. It baffles me how anyone can claim victory when they behave this way - like Gollum toppling into the lava!

    If there exists the possibility anyone gives a crap - right here, one of many attempts!
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...urd-hoax-coffin.604367/page-3#post-1074288780

    If anyone does look at that, look at the post just above where he spams the same damn post as here!
     
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    Well, we've covered one "small" aspect of the Apollo record - ALSEP , gigabytes of data from the Moon (where the missions landed) over 8 years, placement that can only be performed by a human and a massive number of data-specific research papers. I put it to any honest person that faking just that is an absurd claim and would involve fakery and numbers that would make it virtually impossible!
     
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