The case of Lady Susan Hussey vs. Ms. Ngozi Fulani

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  1. MuchAdo

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    Ngozi Fulani was not even directly invited to the Palace as a representative of her organisation, but was brought along under the auspices of another charity.
     
  2. philosophical

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    She was invited then, by someone in another charity probably where the aristocrats said there can be a plus one.
    She didn’t gatecrash.
     
  3. MuchAdo

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    I said she wasn’t directly invited by the palace and she wasn’t.

    Would you consider this a racist conversation.

    “Where are you from?”

    Answer: “I’m from the East Midlands”

    “You can’t be”

    Answer “Well, that’s where I live”.

    “So, Where were you born?”

    Answer “St. Andrew’s, Scotland”

    “That’s hard to believe, where were your parents born”.

    Answer: “My mum was born in London, England and my dad was born in Sri Lanka when it was called Ceylon”

    “Oh, I see, doesn’t really explain much though, where were you really born?”

    This is from a real conversation.
     
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    'You can't be'.

    'That's hard to believe'.

    'Where were you really born'.

    Not only disrespectful, but I suspect that if the person wasn't white enough to pass without comment, due to having a Sri Lankan father, then it is racist as well.
    May even be some kind of slur against scottish people tucked away in there.
     
  5. MuchAdo

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    It’s easy to make assumptions when you don’t have all the facts, isn’t it?

    This was a conversation between me — white — and a workman who asked for access to our backyard to clear the tree branches that had landed while trimming our neighbours tree — he was white also.

    He asked me where I am from because I have a North American accent.
    I said I am from the the East Midlands because that’s where I have lived for the last ten years. It’s entirely fine to ask somebody where they are from if their accent is different.

    If you have ever encountered an East Midlands accent, you would understand why he wouldn’t believe I was from the East Midlands.

    I was born in Scotland, I think he was expecting me to say somewhere in North America.
    Because of my accent.
    My mum was born in England, my dad in Sri Lanka — son of a white missionary. My dad is white, his parents were both Scottish.
    None of that was helpful for him to figure out where I was from.

    I stopped mucking around with his head at that point and explained that I was born in Scotland. My parents had moved to North America when I was two and I had lived there until ten years ago which explains my accent.

    He wasn’t the brightest bulb on the planet and he was just being nosey. There was nothing racist about this conversation. It was just social chit chat between two strangers.

    Moral of the story, don’t jump to conclusions when you don’t have all the facts. Do you think the press has all the facts? There are a lot of things about the story in the press that makes the label racist as questionable. Who takes a recording device to a palace event. Does one really expect when they are dressed up in traditional African garb with an African name that somebody might ask them where they are from. Why would a well known British woman all of a sudden become racist at the age of 83? The black woman lied about Meghan Merle. I think she set the woman up and the press finally has a juicy story that’s not about the PM or covid.
     
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    Just a few responses from people on YouTube.

    @UpYourFoodGame
    5 days ago
    I often ask people ‘where are you from m8?’ I find it interesting to tell the difference between Nigeria and Ghana as well as the difference between Bulgaria and Poland. To most of us in the UK, this is an honest and sincere question as a means of extending one’s hand to friendship. I agree with Nigel on this occasion. Oh, and by the way, I ask this question with my South African accent


    @topofthepops7
    4 days ago
    Have to agree. I have been asked often where I am from by black and white people. I usually reply that I was born here as in black British and English. Yes. ENGLISH! My parents are from the West Indies. Simple. Never been offended by the question and never had anyone interrogate me. It took Ngozi an hour to answer a simple question while dressed in AFRICAN attire. Seriously! Idiot! She knew exactly what Lady Hussey asked her and in my opinion pretended to be confused. Chose to make it an issue. Also questioned the fact the conversation has been reproduced word for word. Purrlease and the timing? They really think people are stupid!


    @hazzard8760
    5 days ago
    I think its disgraceful that the majority of main stream press driven by the BBC have decided to act as judge, jury and executioner towards Lady Hussey without hearing from the lady herself. Ms Fulani could have given a straight answer to the first question but immediately took an evasive response like a petulant child which required Lady Hussey to repeat her question. Ms Fulani understood the question but chose to respond in a less than communicative fashion. She was like a child who was asked by her father "Where have you been" to which her initial response was "Out". Unfortunately for Lady Hussey, she unwittingly walked into Ms Fulani's waiting bear trap

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    I too think that she was set up. To me it’s fairly obvious. Just as Harry’s and Meghan’s series is about to come out on Netflix? Ms Fulani accused the palace of inflicting domestic violence on Ms Merkle because somebody wondered in the family what colour the skin of the baby would be. My partner sister is in a mixed race marriage and when she got pregnant, she said she wondered herself what colour her new baby would be — she said she hoped it was ‘in-between, to represent the best of both of them. It’s not domestic violence to wonder something, nor is it racism. This is all too ridiculous.

    I remember a few weeks ago, on the ‘neighbourhood’ app, somebody had their car broken into on the street. They had CCTV image of the person. The post said that the person was about 6ft tall, dark short hair, thin, wearing a dark coat with a zipper, black trousers and was black. They asked if anybody else caught this man on their security camera’s and if so to contact the police. So of course, somebody had to start banging on about racism. All the person was doing was giving a description, nothing to do with racism. If he had been Chinese, they would have said Chinese; if he had been white, they would have said white; if he had been Indian, they would have said Indian.
     
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    Was there a recording device, I haven't heard it?
     
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    A very good article:

    More:

    https://reaction.life/race-baiting-subversives-are-bending-the-monarchy-to-their-will-lady-hussey/
     
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    I think Lady Hussey had good reasons to ask those questions.
    Wasn't it her job to know something of a guest before introducing her to Queen Camilla?

    Ngozi Fulani Fulani provoked the whole affair:

    Her fake costume made the question: "Where are you from?" even more normal than usual.
    Her evasive answers provoked these series of questions.
    And then she knew nothing better than to record a private conversation and to flood the whole news world with this case.

    Malice and ill will at every corner!

    No, she is NOT the innocent victim! She is the active provocateur of it all.
     
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    What is evasive about the answers "Britain - I'm British"?
     
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    meh....don't get too worked up about some old biddy whose bats aren't all in the belfry......
     
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    Certainly this case has been blown out of all proportion.

    In short: I see a lot of ill will on the side of Ngozi Fulani, and I see a bit of clumsy-ness on the side of Lady Susan Hussey.
    Now for the woke majority Ngozi Fulani seems to have become the hero of the case, while Lady Susan Hussey seems to have become the villain of the case.
    And if one dares to defend Lady Susan Hussey one runs the risk of getting attacked as the villain of this case as well.
    I wonder if this is the last word that is spoken about this case.
     
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    Very good comments - and to the point! :)
     
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    The Royal Family, as an institution, is just going to have work out a strategy for dealing with charges of racism. It seems at this point they are so gun shy of it that they'll fire someone off the bat without even bothering to investigate. As the UK becomes more diverse (less British) these charges are going to come fast and furious, so they better put together a better PR strategy than whatever they are doing now.
     
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    Isn’t being more and more diverse the very essence of being ‘British’?
    And isn’t it a wonderful and glorious thing?
     
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    She wasn't fired, she stepped down. Their PR strategy is not to respond to the idiotic stories in the press or that's all they would be doing. This isn't about how diverse the UK is, it's about some loser setting up and ruining the life of somebody else, on purpose. She should be ashamed of herself.

    If she really thought that Lady Hussey was being racist, she should have privately gone and spoken to a representative of the Royal family and have it sorted out from there. No, she went straight to the press and made sure Lady Hussey was called out publicly as a racist. She had a motive and she got exactly what she wanted. What a b*t*h!!!
     
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    ...that's actually a pretty good summary of the situation....all anyone has to do utter the word "racism" and its like the trump card's been played....all of a sudden no matter what the circumstances are its "racist" and there has to be a resignation or someone has to fall on their sword....its all knee-jerk reactions from then on without any further thought irrespective of context or nuance.
    I mean.....the UK police are now so hamstrung with political correctness and advocates of political correctness breathing over them they may as well just all go home and not bother....anyway
     
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    I don't know, what does that mean...."British" is just an adjective its not a concept or way of being?

    :D:D...Boudica wasn't very "British" mebbe we should lob her statue into the Thames....:);)
     
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    https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1...ly-cease-many-operations-after-royal-race-row
    Sorry - but when this malicious Fulani woman uses the word "racist" again, I do not believe one word of her.
    If the question "Where are you from" is already racist for her, then anything is racist.
     
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    Yes, Fulani's actions were malicious and contemptible.
     
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    Fulani's charity has now stopped working.
    Fulani has only herself to blame for this.
     
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    So I recommended they get a racism PR strategy (since this won't be the first set up) and you are ...against that?
     
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    There was no set up, and the aristocrat wasn’t supplied with a script of what to say.
     
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    Hence why I put ‘British’ in inverted commas.
     

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