The Corona Virus versus Senility and Socialism

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  1. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    In all honesty -- 2016 was the most surrealistic presidential election contest of my life, and I figured that neither the GOP not the Dems could ever top that for sheer craziness; but obviously I was wrong.

    In a way that's gotta make -- never let a crisis go to waste -- Rahm Emanuel proud of his Party and their politically allied media outlets, the political Left is deliberately instilling a sense of terror in this nation by pretty much openly saying the equivalent of "Oh my Gawd! We are all going to die and it's all Trump's fault! Panic everyone!" But you have to ask yourself what that really gets them since Biden is obviously senile and Bernie is a Socialist/Marxist -- and realistically neither of them is going to become president.

    So is it all about the Legislative Branch and perhaps the offices of state governor? Has the DNC conceded -- in private of course -- that Trump is going to get re-elected but that if enough citizens are terrified and or killed by the Corona Virus and then the economy is damaged enough citizens might just pack the House and Senate and Governor posts with leftists? Could be. It's not a bad political strategy. I actually hope that this is the end goal plan and that the Left's leadership isn't deliberately instigating terror simply out of political spite.

    So what say you? Is there a sound political reason for the political Left and their media outlets to be deliberately trying to instill terror in the nation or are they simply doing this out of some sort of twisted political spite?
     
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    But a self confessed, "***** grabber",with a half dozen bankruptcies is perfectly acceptable to right wingers?
     
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  3. Gatewood

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    Come on now; fess up. You cannot possibly be happy with the nature of the last two Dem Party political clowns left standing. But aside from that do you also figure that the real reason -- since the DNC cannot possibly expect to actually win the presidency with either senile Joe or Socialist/Marxist Bernie -- that the political Left's leadership is deliberately inciting panic over the Corona Virus is a long game play for the Legislative Branch and governorships?
     
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    Oh Jesus Falcon, be real! If you're gonna put every man and some women's head on a pike for those things you're not going to have enough steel or wood for pikes.. Coochie grabbers and bankruptcies among the rich OR poor is as common as vanilla ice-cream! Try to be somewhat realistic and stop try to push a nonsense narrative that Trump is "OUT OF THE ORDINARY" :roll: ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

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    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    Well said, but let's turn this back to the OP. Do you figure that the Dem Party's leadership is deliberately panicking this nation in order to crash the economy so that they MAYBE can pack the Legislative Branch and governorships with their people down the line or are they doing this out of simple and mindless and utterly irresponsible political spite?
     
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    I really don't think it so much that as the leftist pushing their own buttons at this point.. They have clearly reached the point of self fueling hatred and no longer need their handlers ;)
     
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    It's called desperation. Their sense of inevitability is failing and so they strike out at everything and flail about like drowning men who never learned to swim.
    Covit-19 is just another club to use in their never ending quest for ever more political power, and their use of it as just another club to wield for political gain is only one more reason they should never be permitted it.
     
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    Dat's a pretty kitty!
     
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    Yes, I am beginning to suspect that this isn't a Dem Party plan. They are simply irresponsible and flailing from instinct.
     
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    Finally the meaning is clear: Covfefe!
     
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    Not only acceptable but desired given the alternatives. Obviously our political system is as broken as our federal government.
     
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    Two separate issues.

    The only thing clear to me about whatever it is that has coalesced Trump’s opposition down to either Sanders or Biden, with it apparently being Biden, and a clearly falteringly capable of speech Biden, is that I am having a hard time imagining a scenario with a greater chance of putting Trump back in office. HRC round two would have better odds of success. She maybe should have taken a tip from Ronny and run again.

    Covfefe-19 is a valid assessment of Trump’s performance and it’s not favorable. Funny that the right keeps referring to the left wanting to make this country into VZ, when their unitary executive philosophy is actually implementing it before our eyes. Loyalty before competence. Never has been or will be a conservative value. So when the divider in chief shows up at the CDC and makes a bunch of bullshit smack talk in front of the cameras and then heads off for a weekend of golf you may possibly admit it is at least a piece of evidence that his political genius is wholly dependent on our polarization. The genius is that he just continues to feed it. The risk is that our vast and badass federal level institutions are all ostensibly and effectively now controlled by effectively a dictator. Not exactly conducive to competency and I would even argue it’s a bit un-American. Regardless of the few sidebars I tossed up here, leadership matters and with respect to real emergencies we’ve got the ******bag that tosses paper towels to hurricane victims in charge.
     
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    Aside from the slander-

    A half dozen bankruptcies is a damn good record when you are talking about that being a percentage of the 600 entities Trump has. That's 1%.
    Fact is, 50% of new businesses fold in the first 5 years. I had one bankruptcy out of 8 businesses, or about 12% ratio. The vast majority of bankruptcies are filed by consumers, 33 times more than businesses.
    Trump is more than acceptable. Not perfect, just far better than any alternatives.
     
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    Trump was basically handed a silver spoon economy compared to most Presidents. Welcome to the real world of politics, Mr. Trump - crap happens.

    It’s all up to how you handle said crap. Do you pawn it off on your V.P. and go golfing or do you project a person in charge persona.
     
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    It's only slander if it's false. You do you and your political philosophy a severe disservice sub-serving Trump in lieu of true conservatism.
     
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    They're still going with the removal from office plan.
    Step one- wait for crisis
    Step two- deep state plants misadvise Trump
    Step three- blame Trump
    Step four- peach mints or 25A and hope to turn a few votes

    Once Trump is out, its all bureaucratic obfuscation to get an establishment guy -any establishment guy- back on top.

    And to be fair, Trump IS partially to blame, allowing himself to be surrounded by enemy operatives such as he has. Shoulda fired em all day one and got fresh new faces with no establishment 'credentials' whatsoever. He still should.
     
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    Yes, I think this is an apt description of what is happening. The media is complicit in this too. All you have to do is look at the immediate politicalization of what is basically a weak flu into something panic worthy. Its irresponsible to say the least.
     
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    Aren't you just a super special genius. Because Trump is Anti-Establishment the market SOARED upon his inauguration....

    Trump's presence in office defines the Deep State's interest in having him there. Were there such a force, aka, JFK era that wished to remove him, he would be gone.
     
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    The market soared because Trump is a capitalist. The market (the bulk of it) cares far more about money than politics.
     
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    Stick to that then rather than your deep state bullshit assertions.
     
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    Its pure politics from dems and the MSM.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you suggesting theres no deep state? Or are you suggesting that the progressive/globalist establishment stay-behind networks undermining and sabotaging the administration are called something else?

    Or are you suggesting Trump has full control of a loyal administration?
     
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    Grey Matter Well-Known Member Donor

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    You tell me genius, since you apparently lack the ability to recognize when you wrap yourself in pretzel logic,

    “The market soared because Trump is a capitalist. The market (the bulk of it) cares far more about money than politics.”
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You want me to tell you what you're suggesting? No. Thats not how debating works.

    Try answering the question or rephrasing your position.

    Then maybe explain what you think the market and the deep state have to do with eachother in that context.
     
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    Lol...You mean the Covfeve virus?
    I'm sure that the whole planet's governments and media are in cahoots about the Covfeve virus just to make your boy trump look bad.
    Yeah, let's go with that.
    There's no telling how low the rest of the world will go to stick it to trump, even dying of a virus is worth it if we can blame the orange dotard for it.
    What a hoot.
     
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