The death of eternal truths and the new Paganism

…Freedom is not an opting out. It is an opting in — a participation in Being itself. Hence authentic freedom can never be attained by turning away from God.”

There is a truth; that truth must be pursued; the only substitute for truth is falsehood. Human beings have sussed out eternal truths over the course of millennia, and to discard those truths in favor of subjectivism is crippling. Those eternal truths are rooted in the belief that God made us in His image; that He granted us roles and responsibilities; and that true freedom lies in making choices within the boundaries of those roles and responsibilities.

What happens when we discard those truths?

Disaster strikes.

First, we lose belief in something Higher; then we lose belief in ourselves.

We are seeing the consequences of this two-step process before us in real time…

…As the West loses its links with traditional wisdom, it breaks loose of its philosophical moorings. The consequences will be dire unless those moorings are reinforced. And they can only be reinforced by those who have the courage to defend eternal truths — not merely hide behind the tolerance of pluralism, a repository for the cowardice of conservatives who correctly stand with free speech but incorrectly think that stance sufficient to win the day.

In the end, either the truth will win out, or it will be destroyed…







https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/0...-eternal-truths-and-the-new-paganism-1322096/








The secular progressives left is trying to create a new pagan world order. They have. declared war on the truth. They are trying to replace it with error and lies. They are in denial of intelligent design and that there is a God, the creator who made us all in His image. They invent new “doctrines” in order to control through fear. Religion and capitalism are their biggest enemies.

 

Ben Shapiro is exactly right about all that he wrote. The entire article at the link is a good read. The secular progressive left elites are trying to replace God with a false religion that worships the creation rather than the creator. They want to install a new “religion” around that, one that replaces faith and confidence with doubt, despair, and dependency on government instead. They try to scare with climate change hoaxes and global warming fraud to force us out of individual rights, economic freedom, and freedom of religion liberty. They want to replace western religions and capitalism with secular or pagan socialism

 

i might agree with many of the founders that the creator is embodied in the creation and that the two are 1.



the founders were not "pagans" who worshipped trees, but they did see that god and nature are 1.

 

There are no higher powers, higher truths, or natural laws. Hell, it would probably be easier if there were.

I realize that for some the idea that we alone are the arbiters of morality is downright scary and that they need the parental structure over humanity that a God provides, but that does not and has never made it true.
And that's obvious for a very simple reason. You have to believe it in order for it to be true. Prior to man creating government and law, none of these higher powers, truths, or laws did anything. Even today in some parts of the world, you can see very clearly they don't exist.

Someday we'll have no need of the mythology tied in to our daily lives, and even now it's starting to drain away in western countries, and we will realize that it is just us, humanity, that are responsible for ourselves. We're not being guided, we're not going to be saved, we're not being protected, there are no interventions or angels or miracles that will rescue us, America is not blessed or chosen by God(and neither is any country). It is up to us, the human race exclusively, to make sure we don't muck things up.

 

Hence authentic freedom can never be attained by turning away from God.

An utterly arrogant claim.

 

I am also concerned about the fake Christians that try to use God as a weapon to support their own political lies.

 

that’s interesting
I guess I’m a Deist (not sure if that is the proper word) because I pretty much believe the same thing.

 

No, it’s the truth. Without God there is nothing.

 

You realize that the author of the seed is not a Christian at all, don’t you. The author is a politically conservative Jewish American whose opinion is widely circulated among conservative political opinion sites. Of course political opinion that is supported by a belief in God from any perspective is not allowed in the political opinion section. It’s as if conservative Jewish and conservative Christian opinion is not to be a tolerated political opinion here…

 

Opinion, not fact

 

Without God there is no rape, murder, infanticide, etc.?

 

As if freedom can only be attained by believing in an unproven invisible man in the sky. No, that is slavery to superstition.

How can one "turn away" from something that does not exist? Disagree? Then provide empirical evidence to support the God claim. Empirical evidence is not circular logic or anecdotal claims of some personal experience as is constantly presented by various religious cults.

 

Apparently WITH this god of his all those things happen. Go figure.

 

False dichotomy. I am a conservative and don't believe in an invisible God.

 

So defend them then. What is your epistemology for believing those supposedly eternal truths? If you can't provide epistemologically sound justifications, they will lose.

 

God did not bring evil into the universe. Another being did that by its free will choice. Without God who is the creator, there would literally be absolutely nothing.

 

You just admitted that isn't true. You are saying there is another being who created things.

 

But your god created the other being that allowed for rape, murder, infanticide, etc., right? Therefore your god did in fact create rape, murder, infanticide, etc. Your god sounds like a real a55 hole piece of crap. Just sayin.

 

I’ve been curious about secular conservatives on one point. How do you deal with the fact that almost all your allies on current world issues like spending, taxes, economic priorities, and things like education and gun rights are religiously orientated, and that most who agree with your secular point of view are very progressive left in their political matter’s orientation?

 

I deal with it my largely avoiding discussing politics or religion with people. That being said, my preference is to be around religious conservatives rather than secular liberals.

 

I too avoid taking politics and religion. I simply prefer just being around good people. Which so happens to include people from both sides of the political aisle.

 

As is often the case, two sides are talking to each other using different terms.

There are two truths, the Absolute Truth that is God and all things unknowable and permanent, and the intellectual truth, which is constantly changing due to inputs that change moment to moment. You could make a third category, moral truth, which is intellectual but nearly immutable. Moral truth is those rules/practices agreed to by society [or a religious order] and cannot be changed by any individual [only by formal decree]. THIS is the sticking point and where the relativists have it 100% wrong.

It is quite common for these two truths to be used interchangeably and this is where confusion reigns. Those who apply Absolute Truth to the intellect are rebuffed by those who understand that everything we can know is transient....OTOH, these same folks attempt to apply their [relative] intellectualism to the Absolute [God] refusing to realize that a spiritual world exists outside of the relative.

God does not exist to these unfortunate souls because they cannot pierce their intellectual armor in order to realize that although God is unknowable, He exists because its the only idea that makes sense out of the world we live in. God exists because his non-existence delivers human beings to the gates of Hell.

 

I agree with this in live interactions with people at work or family, etc. the only time I talk the other subjects in person is when I phone bank during campaign season for political and when providing faith based charity work or leaving door knob outreach info paper if someone chooses to talk.

 

"True freedom lies in making choices within the boundaries"? Gobbledygook. Just what are the eternal truths that you are courageously defending from the pagans that are attacking the Truth. And what are the "doctrines" that control people by fear? This seems to be an unknown world view to me. It sounds scary.

 

The secular and pagan left are scary