The German Government is finished! New elections unavoidable

Nonsense. Christianity preaches to "love your neighbor as yourself" To "love your enemy" and "turn the other cheek" to him when stricken. That "my kingdom is not of this world" to "obey all authorities established among men" to "render unto Caesar, that which is Caesars". Islam on the other hand preaches to "fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers "until.... religion is only for allah". Islam is the only religion that both dictates the form of government and the law to be applied. Christianity doesn't even concern itself with such things. They are polar opposites of each other.

According to Christianity
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

According to Islam
Volume 1, Book 2, Number 26: Narrated Abu Huraira*)
Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."

 

Just ignore Durandal. This seems to be a typical tactic of throwing out some controversial issue, that would take us down a long rabbit hole, in an attempt to derail the main discussion in the thread.

Let's try to focus on the issues in the opening post.

Remember, if anyone wants to have a side discussion that goes deep into another issue, they can provide a link to another thread.

 

You're the one who started ranting about Islam, not me.

 

Yet it was Christians, not Muslims, who burned "witches" and spent centuries killing each other in Europe over doctrinal disagreements.

 

Christians cause problems when they act in contradiction of their written doctrine. The problems with Muslims arise when they act in accordance to their doctrine.

 

Islam butchered millions, and still tries to.You're delusional if you think Islam is anything but a cult to justify mass murder and robbery; it's for a bandit culture and nothing else.

As for witchcraft, the penalty for it under Sharia is death.

AS for 'witch burnings', most were done by superstitious pagans and peasants, and mostly by Protestants during the so-called 'Enlightenment'; very few were ever burned in the Papal states or Catholic Spain. And even those numbers are highly exaggerated, same with the three Inquisitions. The Catholic scholars position was always ' there is no such thing as magic, it's a peasant superstition'.

How does that compare to stoning 11 year old girls to death for learning how to read or killing women for being raped in your mind?

 

Exactly.

 

The AfD is antidemocratic and aims to abolish freedoms in Germany.

There are too many and too prominent Nazis in the AfD.

The FDP will not be represented in the next Bundestag.

 

the same can be said of any Party in the U.S. There are white nationalists here who voted for Obama, and many voted for Biden in 2020. Doesn't mean much; such people are mostly insane and their politics bizarre. Check out how many crazy Jews voted for Obama, Hillary, Biden, and Kamala, all of them actively funding Iran and supporting the Mullahs.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a4719/racists-support-obama-061308/


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-supremacists-see-hope-in-obama-win/

 

You are so well informed by the main stream media, you are surely among the 80% Germans who were sure Harris were safe to win the election, because of the unbiased news articles by the MSM, when even US MSM didnt dare to jeopardize their reputation to that extend and more or less called it a 50-50.

I dont even care about the FDP, from my side, its fine when the AfD remains with a libertarian wing and consumes their voters, but the certainty with which you predict that they will drop out is utter stupidity.

 

You must be joking, right?

First, I seriously doubt you dont have any problems with Islam in the US, because incidents from US campuses came over in the news, as well as attacks by Islamic mobs attacking Jewish restaurants or attacking them on the streets and by the way you can maybe tell us again what happened on 9/11, because you mentioned that specific date when the so called hysteria broke out, maybe it rings a bell.

Secondly, there arent these shares of Muslims in the US, as the routes for illegals will be more expensive and they will never ever have the opportunity to have the numbers and power to overthrow the US and make it a Sharia state, not in the foreseeable future at least.

The situation now is gang rapes are exploding in Germany, it was once a crime which was so rare, it completely disappeared completely in the crime statistics, now it happens 2-3 times a day. Perpetrators are overwhelmingly young Muslim men, victims mostly German or other infidel "Kuffar whores" between 10-20, heavy on the 10-15. There is one way however how you can it almost certainly avoid it as a young girl, wear a scarf, Burka or anything like that.

You are telling this nonsense in the very week the Amsterdam incidents happened and everyone in Europe know thats the atmosphere in every European metropolis right now?
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/calls-for-jew-hunt-preceded-attacks-in-amsterdam-e3311e21
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2024_Amsterdam_attacks

Sorry, but its a travesty to tell this now.

In contrast to the US, which might have problems of its own with migration, if Germany continues with the migration politics (which is unlikely luckily, as even people who were defending Islam along the way so far are switching sides slowly, but surely, calling it of course "patriarchy" or "patriarchic cultures" which is ridiculous, but we hear what they mean) Germany will reach a share of 20-25% Muslims in 2050. If that happens its over. From then on its Lebanon all over again, which used to be a pearl until it was turned into a shithole by Islam. Such a society will never ever again enter a situation of relative peace and prosperity again, from then on its secterian violence and tribalism all over again.

Its more likely Iran will at some point be fed up with Islam, get rid of it, than European nations recover from that.

And no, religions are not the same! I dont know why the left tries to repeat this stupidity all over again, maybe a trial of self-hypnosis until they finally believe it. Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism or Buddhism are not the same and they are different from Islam. One religion models a psychopathic genocidal sexual pervert warlord to its role model, another believes in harmony and decency, another one adores an ancient hippie pacifist with his 12 followers. When we talk about "terrorism" globally, its about 90% an Islam problem.

 

Thats basically what I said, before the invasion of 2014 2% was the target they agreed on. Its however not part of the NATO treaties. 3% is brought up by Trump now, which is reasonable giving that a full scale invasion of the Ukraine in 2022 happened.

 

There is a lot of work to do in Germany for other reforms, I dont know what exactly is the problem, but the procurement is said to be terrible. So on the one hand you are right, you can waste 3% of the GDP by ineffectivity, its not only that number. At some point however a solid financial base is necessary and in the long run to plan with it.

 

1. You go back to the mid-ages
2. You claim that ... yes ... what, in the Islamic world were not wars over doctrinal disagreements?

For the first part, Christianity had similar advantages for rulers and feudal lords as Islam, as both monotheistic religions, both were spread - to a large extend at least, propably not exclusively - with violence and ruled with sheer brutality if the power of those in charge was questioned. How can you possible say that Muslims didnt kill each other in these times over doctrinal disagreements, which were always used for power struggles, when they came in handy.

 

The AfD has had a libertarian wing, but those have nothing to say anymore or are expelled. There is one one wing left in this Party, that is the fashist/antidemocratic wing around Höcke.

And no, I do not only read quality papers but I also inform myself in AfD-publications as well.

 

1. Its not true, Alice Weidel e.g. is clearly libertarian in her economic approach. Your characterization as "fascist/antidemocratic" isnt worth **** in this case, because this label is used against libertarians as well by left wing nutcases.

2. Of course you are manipulated by the MSM your certainty that the FDP will not represented in the next parliament have you away directly. Absolutely unclear at the moment, you think you know it due to the same moronic trash talkers who convinced 80% if the German population that the victory of Harris was clear. These people dont even read polls properly, which even have a limited value months before the election. Even if you take the polls now its absolutely unclear if the FDP would make it into the parliament or not.

3. Argue whatever you want, it wont change the fact that the rest voters of the FDP will be consumed mainly by AfD and CDU, in the scenario that the FDP dies. They wont care about left wing nutcases calling them fascists or Nazis, if they would listen to the "heute show" they would not have voted for the FDP in the first place.

 

Good Riddance.