The hearings start today

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    "Americans must be reminded how Jan. 6 called into question many things they could previously take for granted: that their leaders would accede to free and fair election results; that the president would defend the U.S. system of government; that violent resistance to the nation’s democratic institutions would find no succor in the White House or in the halls of Congress. There can be no higher priority than restoring those fundamental norms."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-spin-nation-still-hasnt-reckoned-with-jan-6/

    Not sure how that is possible, we're in a fast descent into fascism and chaos.
     
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    Well FOX Business will offer a hosted commentary 'coverage' and FOX News, in it's fair and balanced way, will offer their regular programming and dip in for sporadic coverage (AKA filter). Why educate their viewers since they like 'em dumb and full of far right propaganda, laughing all the way to the bank.
     
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    "fascism
    noun
    fas·cism | \ ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi- \
    Definition of fascism


    1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
    2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control early instances of army fascism and brutality— J. W. Aldridge"

    1. Almost describes the DNC to the letter. "centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition" With the exception of being headed by a dictatorial leader since Biden is a puppet. Race above character? What is CRT? Severe economic and social regimentation? YUP! Suppression of opposition? Like kicking conservatives off of all the social platforms?
     
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    Bahahahah @ that statement. Watch how fast they refuse a peaceful transition of power when Trump wins in 2024.

    I’m keeping this one for posterity.
     
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    They will be informative to watch, but ultimately meaningless without prosecutions.
     
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    Quite the contrast to the McCarthy and Watergate hearings. The latter having received the attention of 80% of the viewing public. As Woodward and Bernstein pointed out a few days ago, what Trump did was arguably worse than Nixon's actions. Back then, Repub senators contacted Nixon before his impeachment trial to say they would vote to convict, leading to his resignation. The facts regarding Trump's and his minion's actions, most of which are known now but weren't at the time of Trump's second impeachment, that will be covered during the 1/6 committee hearings are the most damning for a prez in the nation's history. Unethical, unpatriotic, and illegal, they represent the worst betrayal of the oath of office one can imagine.
     
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    I would suggest if they are informative for the many millions of people who are unaware of the details about the attempted coup, that automatically would make the hearings meaningful.
     
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    Lol y’all got nothing. The same nothing burger y’all have had for months.

    These hearings are going to be hilarious to watch and even more hilarious when they realize no one cares.
     
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    I think minds are made up already.
     
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    Historical note, the founder of Faux news and its long time producer, Roger Ailes, was Nixon's media consultant at the time of Watergate. He expressed a desire, way back then, to have a TV station that advocated for Repubs. At the time he wanted one to be used to defend Nixon. As we know, he eventually got his wish with the establishment of what is POT TV.
     
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    Bahahahah what facts are those?
     
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    One hopes information can still change minds, but I take your point.
     
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    LOL
     
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    **** the weeping and gnashing of teeth by the Dems when they realize they’ve wasted 6 months on something that’s gonna net them nothing is going to be epic.
     
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    Look at teh posts from the right in this thread.
     
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    I’m just waiting for these facts he’s claiming to have lol
     
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    Look it’s simple. The ONLY way this works out well for the Dems is if they can produce a smoking gun of PROOF that Trump corroborated with the people storming the capitol.

    But they don’t have it. Because if they did have it, it would be in every liberal media outlet being talked about 24/7.

    So there is no smoking gun and this is going to look like EXACTLY what it is. A political witch-hunt in an attempt to silence opposition.
     
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    What are they going to prosecute ?
     
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    Well, it's been said many times, if there was a Murdock FOX News, Nixon would have survived and America would have been a different country. I read some of the troll denial posts on this thread and am reminded of how ignorant and juvenile many of their believers are and want to be.
    Touché!
     
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    a."centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader" there is no "dictatotial leader" in the democratic party. can you say the same for repubs?

    .b. severe economic and social regimentation. seriously? democrats? monopolistic conglomerates fandle the economuc regimentation no matter which party is "in." social regimentation is done by repubs on behalf of their megachurch televangelists.

    c.forcible suppression of opposition if the democrats practiced this, the coup leaders would be history. losten to repub calls for revenge (for what?) and to "lock her up" for the crime of questioning dear leader

    d. exalts nation and often race above the individual "america first" american exceptionalism" bleating chants of "usa usa usa" at dear leader's nuremburg style rallies etc etc etc etc etc

    conservatives kick themselves off of social media (the silicon billionaires are NOT liberal. far from it). by repeatedly demonstrating that the terms and conditions do not apply to them.
     
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    Google 14 traits of fascism, you guys touch most of the bases.

    When you say forcible suppression of opposition, I hear Jan 6..

    You don't have the intellectual training from college and law school to be able to understand CRT. Pretending you do is just pathetic.

    You guys are not conservatives, you're radicals, and society has to protect itself from those that do it harm...
     
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    we will certainly bitch when that occurs. but any objections and lawsuits will be backed by evidence, not "people are saying" and there will be no "green bay sweep."
     
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    there will be no prosecutions, no matter how guilty we eye witnesses know that the ringleaders are.
     
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    Pretty sure I stated that while the DNC doesn't have a central figure, they pull the strings of the puppet voted in. :)

    Lock her up? Is that the same as 2 failed impeachments based on make believe allegations? LOL :)

    Race first? Exactly! What is CRT's core tenant? To judge one based on the color of their skin and not the quality of their character? We gotta stop seeing everyone as grey and instead see them as their race first! Or how about the celebration of the white population shrinking? (because they assume that if the white voting block shrinks...the DNC will win every election moving forward...hrm?) :)

    Which party has a controlling mechanism called super delegates that gives selected individuals more voting power so that they can control who represents their party in the general election? :)

    Social media...speaking at schools...speaking out against any of these socially destructive policies gets a person DE platformed, fired outcast...lol. Sounds pretty authoritarian to me! :)

    Walks like a duck. Quakes like a duck...
     
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    I like the way you focus on "Accusation>>Prosecution>>Success" rather than "Accusation>>Rebuttal>>Determination of Guilt or Innocence by one's peers>>Success". I can actually only think of one case that has gone to jury trial and that case was moved from Texas to DC, where the defendant had damned near no chance of getting an unbiased jury.
     

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