The hearings start today

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Byrd laid in a hidden ambush position across the hall and not visible to the window Ashli went through because there was a door between them.... The only command he and his colleagues were shouting were "get back"... non-lethal weapons were available, but Byrd proceeded to jump from his ambush position to gun down Ashli... Ashli was not in the window long enough for Byrd to holler anything even close to a warning before murdering Ashli Babbitt.. a 5'2" unarmed defenseless woman veteran...
    Michael Byrd, “did not create a police report or documents” related to the shooting of Babbitt. Byrd was not forced to give an account that day but was walked the through the scene as he gave his account... and there is an evidence bag missing that he had.
    https://www.judicialwatch.org/videos/new-ashli-babbitt-killing-evidence-goes-missing/

    Judicial Watch Lawsuit Forces Release of DOJ Memo Declining Criminal Prosecution for Ashli Babbitt’s Shooter
    https://www.judicialwatch.org/doj-memo-declining-criminal-prosecution-for-ashli-babbitts-shooter/
     
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  2. LangleyMan

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    You're defending the perps by attacking people looking into who might have helped them.
     
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    Your sentence structure is abysmal. You state: "You're defending the perps..."

    You are again not telling the truth.

    Then mid sentence you switch subjects without alerting the reader: "...by attacking people looking into who might have helped them."

    Either your claim is wholly deranged, or you just switched subjects, without warning the reader, and the subject in your horribly formed sentence is now the people in the Capitol who are so supposed to maintain security and safety. Instead they lost complete control of the Capitol for several hours. If so, that's exactly the inquiry I support rather than this "Get Trump" revenge porn.

    This subject is developed in the second half of this article: https://jonathanturley.org/2022/06/...an-6-committee-undermined-its-own-legitimacy/

    Pelosi and her Flying Monkeys will not deal with this, I suspect Speaker McCarthy and the emerging majority will in 2023.
     
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  4. LangleyMan

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    She was a perp breaching a door into the Capitol. Apparently, that makes no difference to you.

    You're libeling the officer.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    I am thinking fat boy Byrd could have held down little 135 lb Ashli with his fat a**, but that is just my personal opinion...
    There was less lethal weapons available and should have been used to subdue the unarmed defenseless women that day... to support the murder of an American citizen seems to be right up your ally.
     
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    I guess no one thought arming the Capitol police with tazer guns would be an effective tool in handling a mob. Tear gas might have also worked. Iirc, one of the things available to members of Congress were gas masks.

    https://www.masslive.com/news/2021/...under-chairs-as-protestors-storm-capitol.html

    It's not like the use of gas wasn't a planned for event.
     
  7. LangleyMan

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    You're going after people looking into who might have helped the criminals attacking the Capitol. It's a rather transparent effort to deflect attention.
    :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
    So, the Capitol police are responsible for the perps' criminal behavior?

    You want to investigate the police and ignore the perps.
    Turley?! :roll: :roll:
    We can't wait. :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
     
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    Sorry to see it, but Babbitt earned the Darwin Award. You should stop attacking the police defending your Capitol.
     
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    Babbitt pushed the envelope and ended up dead. Police shouldn't be expected to risk their lives by tippy-toeing around perps.
     
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    I'm thinking whomever thought arming the Capitol police with lethal guns and then using them to kill people as an effective tool in handling a unarmed defenseless woman should be brought forward ... as in post #435 asked .. who authorized the use of deadly force that day?
    ""Who order the lethal force be used? Why won't Pelosi release all the records of the investigation will he be place under oath before the committee?""
     
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    Byrd did not shoot the unarmed defenseless woman because he feared for his life... no matter how high you want to pile that turd.
     
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    Except she wasn't attacking anyone. She was trying to break through a barricade.
     
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    The room is filled with officers, uniiformed, plain and the "Special Response Team" the riot/Swat geared. None of them fire a shot.

    As much or more. They were even going office to office and occupying offices.

    Because it is likely this "great trained" officer who should have been fired for leaving his loaded weapon in a restroom, accidentally discharged his weapon in the panic he was displaying.

    Would you please get Pelosi to release all the records? This was a homicide why haven't all the records been released. What day is it scheduled for them to investigate it. What day are they going to depose Pelosi and then interview her?
     
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    She could have been seen by the police as leading the charge into the building. It wouldn't have been the first time perps put women in front.

    We also have cops who aren't warriors in backwater jobs like guarding the Capitol and school buildings in small Texas towns.
     
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    You have no way of making this judgment. People who are afraid act in ways you might not expect.
     
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    And running away from the discussion.
     
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    I'm not seeing as how that justifies shooting her. No one shot those breaking the windows to get inside the building. Common sense tells you those doing it were a threat and yet no one thought it was enough of a threat to shoot them. Also, there were LEO on the same side of the door as this woman and none of them saw it as threat deserving shooting anyone.
     
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    The police are standing right there including the Sargent-at-Arms supervisor and the Special Response Team. None of them saw a lethal threat. They are not "charging into the building" as Langley asserts, there are WELL into the building. And yep while the people at the front are literally smashing out the windows the police just walk to the side and stand there. Then Babbitt right in front of them attempts to go through the broken window unabated and no one fired a shot except Byrd. And you can see Byrd who is not even in that hallway but in the adjacent room where there is a heavy door and BARRICADES is jumping around nervous and then his weapon goes. I would reason to doubt he accidentally fired because he was so nervous and afraid. It was an unjustified homicide and the entire record should be release and he should have been charged, fired at the least.
     
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    And that can get you charged with an unjustified homicide.
     
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    What envelope and why did not the supervisor, the uniformed CP and the members of the Special Response Team kill her? They were right there next to her.
     
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    Ashli posed him no threat... she was unarmed and defenseless.... keep piling the turds a little higher..
     
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    You know what would clear this up a little better for both of us.. the Capitol security camera coverage of Byrd's side of the door showing his movements from behind his ambush position and then murdering her and also hollering what ever he may have (with a mask on of course)
     
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    My post sufficiently explained my valid objections that are firmly rooted in 230 years of congressional precedent and jurisprudence that extends even beyond the formation of the nation and into our colonial era.
    Your claim, not mine. If there were no errors made by those that supervise, deploy and equip the Capitol Police, why are Pelosi and the clowns on the J6 committee refusing to examine it? And even in errors were made, why the refusal to examine and learn from the mistakes, if any were made?
    Your claims, not mine.
     
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    You have quite the imagination.
     
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    A pretend historian, no less. :)
    So, are you prepared to acknowledge Trump did nothing for more than three hours will the Capitol riot continued?
     

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