The Holocaust revised!!!!

Actually, they "submitted" the testimony he gave at the various nuremburg trials at his trial in Poland, but that wasn't the "confession:" used to hang him.

The actual confession - also called his "memoirs" - was written in the interval between the nuremburg and his trial in Poland.
He admitted the truth to the best of his recollection. He was tried and naturally he was convicted. He wrote letters to his wife (who he was estranged from the instant she found out what was happening to the jews and her husbands part in it) and to his kids, (who were tormented by the crimes of their father their entire lives) and issued an apology for his actions.

Now, if only his confession after beating was used and he did not expand/alter or admit anything else, and there was no corroborating independent evidentiary sources, then I think it would be reasonable to take that confession with a grain of salt. However, it turns out that the "product" of those three days was just the tip of the iceberg so to speak from Hoess. There is a huge pile of cross referenced corroborating evidence, and in the end there is what appears to be a rather heartfelt apology delivered two days before he was hung.

 

What about the ashes? How long did it take to clean out the ovens? Did they require maintenance? What kind of fuel did they use? How much fuel was required per day?

 

logical fallacy.

Even more illogical because that is exactly what the nazi's did.

 

That's too funny!! They trusted the word of an original SS member to identify Hitler's remains.

It's amazing what a person can learn from chat rooms. I wish to thank everyone for their contributions to an interesting discussion.

 

Thank you for your efforts. You single handedly do more to destroy the argument of the denialists than anyone else actually participating in this discussion.

 

There is this enduring myth that the Nazi leadership were some sort of James Bondish evil geniuses. The truth is with a couple of limited exceptions they were by an and large idiots, driven by strange dreams of superiority

 

Very interesting book. I read it a while back when it was mentioned here.

If anyone is interested you can find it here as a free download in a variety of formats:http://archive.org/details/AnEyeForAnEye

There weren't that many jews in the OSS. Even Sack only claims that in the silesia office that 75% of the officers were jews which amounted to about 50. Morel was probably the most noteable and he was a 26 year old completely unqualifed kid who screwed the pooch badly.

Interestingly there were about 2.5 million german prisoners in soviet custody of which it is estimated at least 1,000,000 died in custody by 1947. This horrific number is about the same % death toll as soviet prisoners in german POW camps. The allied numbers for german prisoner deaths more or less mirrored the % death toll of allied prisoners in german POW camps of between 1 and 2%/ Ya think the germans and soviets hated each other a bit?

Its a fascinating and gruesome epilog to the war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zgoda_labour_camp

http://www.cyberussr.com/hcunn/for/us-germany-pow.html

 

delusional re=write of history without a shred of evidence. Nice one there jack.
Of course the jews started the war, they financed the war, they died in the war, they won the war, they made tons of money in the war, they manipulated every other nation in the war to do their bidding, the dropped the bomb on japan, they invested in furnaces and gas chambers, the rothschild's bribed everyone to fight the war, they murdered germans after the war, they murdered jews during the war, <insert whatever crazy purile accusation you can think of about jews because it must be true>

Listen before you return to reality, please pick up whatever evidence you see lying around on your way out of the current paranoid conspiracy fantasyland you appear to be mired in at the moment. Then you can present it to us all so we may so judge for ourselves.

Not that your word isn't enough to launch a thousand ships, wait... never mind, that was looks not word, I got carried away with your mythology.

 

It is said there are times when you do stupid better than just about anyone.

 

being hilarious is easy with such fodder.
I thank you and the gang for providing it in such tremendous amounts.

 

a small but interesting little rhetorical trick.

What sounds bigger 50 jews in an silesian bureau or 75% of the officers in siliesia were jews?

 

actually it is very different than modern cremetoria. Once again your failure to actually evaluate the evidence that is presented to you is evident in the ignorance of that comment.

http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/

and here is a scientific study of the fuel required vs krema capacity.

http://www.holocaust-history.org/irving-david/vanpelt/vanpelt-coke.shtml


you really should read more. You might learn something new. Hey - its worth a shot, isn't it?

 

I completely agree. Its time to separate fable from fact, except you do not present a single fact in your noble statement.

You guys simply refuse to actually examine the real evidence and instead choose to believe the piles of animal excrement that deniers attempt to pass off as proof on such notable sites as VHO, CODOH, IHR and of course all the pinhead white nationalist and neo nazi sites.

Come back when you can offer any significant rebuttal evidence to the following:

http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/

http://www.holocaust-history.org/irving-david/vanpelt/vanpelt-coke.shtml

 

your math is completely wrong.

And why do you insist on this 6 million number being gassed and/or cremated? Clearly nobody is even remotely suggesting that. It never has been suggested.

With every post you make, it is clear that you are simply not in command of the facts.

 

You are being intellectually dishonest. You have shown yourself throughout this thread to be incapable of genuine argument when confronted. When again confronted for having given no answers to specific questions you claimed in reply to that that you had given 5 links to a book and added "I see Alexa has too." clearly backing yourself up.

or to put it more accurately you said

There is one and one only conclusion that can be made from that. You were suggesting that I agreed with you. You were being intellectually dishonest as, as was clear from the onset, the only reason I put that in was to answer the lies presented by Wyrd of Gawd. Post again

http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-world-news/294790-holocaust-revised-96.html#post1062447120

I did not as you inferred give a reference to that book to back up your views but rather to try to bring reality back to people on a hate fest that is devoid of both humanity and intelligence. Anyone answered Snakestretcher's, Jonsa's or Uri's where their relations vanished too while having this love in for the Nazi's. This thread has no decency.

Nice try but no one was discussing that book. What was being discussed was the fact that you had presented no evidence. Your answer

You were doing exactly what I said.

I never said you were. Try to respond to what people put to you. You gave as one of your sources to prove there was no holocaust one written by a man who Jonsa told us is a member of the BNP - and he has since said it was only a phamphlet. When confronted on this you claimed you gave it because it was an easy read. Now I can tell you that no one who wanted honesty regarding the holocaust, would read a book written by a third bit Nazi supporter. The only place where such material might have any chance of being thought of as in any way credible would be at Stormfront/ Forbidden Truth or some other White National/ Jew Hate site. That was the point I made concerning you bringing such material here. Your ignorance in not being aware of this is astounding in the extreme.

More insults. More dishonesty. Try to learn to deal with the issues is an honest manner.

 

http://barnesreview.org/pdf/TBR2007-no5-4-14.pdf

 

The only point I was making was that Rassinier had been linked more than five times.

You insinuated I was BNP

I don't particularly want to reply to your posts, which so far when aimed my way, have been personal attacks on me, personal attacks being a bit of a habit of exterminists,

I'm done with this and shall probably ignore you from now on.

 

Suggest reading "The Selling of the Holocaust." by a former researcher at the National
Holocaust Museum.