The ********** idea of a "better economy"

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  1. Montoya

    Montoya Banned

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    Just give all the power to the rich and of course very minimal regulations if any at all. In their warped minds they think that by giving the rich and big business absolute power while paying no taxes at all this will magically create good paying jobs and a strong economy. Well tea bags, we have tried that for 30 years and its only been a gradual decline. The crash of 2008 is clear cut evidence of the failed policies of "trickle down economics". Or what everyone else calls it "trickle on". I like most others fail to see how driving down a workers wages while propping up business is at all healthy for the economy. What good is supply-side when no one can afford the supply regardless if its made in cheap China. I like to read about the extremists saying the dems had 2 years of full control and did nothing. However they are quick to forget that every piece of legislation brought up was filibustered by the republicans in the senate. The **********s can keep their 200 year old outdated idea of America. The rest of us will progress!
     
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    Your ideas have been in play for most of the last two centuries. How has that been going for you? I love that socialists continually miss the point that we have simply not had a free or capitalist society for decades. The argument that the decline of the country demonstrates a failure of conservatism is quite funny since the raging debts, bubbles and recessions have come about in the middle of an interventionist, welfare society.

    Keep name calling though, it's much more effective than reading.
     
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    I do not support the Tea Party agenda. That being said I think your synopsis of their goals is off target. The Tea Party believes the whole tax system is structured in such a way as to benefit the powerful and thus should be done away with. They believe corporations should have little or no influence on government and they believe that by reducing governments influence on local economies we will also reduce big businesses influence. They believe that each community should have the power to find solutions to their own problems. They are flawed by extremist views and an unwillingness to compromise.
     
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    That sounds great, but it also sounds very different from any other description of the tea party that I've heard -- and that's going purely by descriptions of the tea party, by the tea party. Or at least, by people claiming to be tea partiers.

    No two descriptions have ever been the same. Or even terribly similar. For a while there was a single common thread that they all wanted to do away with welfare, but even that isn't completely consistent any more.
     
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    TBryant Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you are hearing more about how they plan to do things more than you hear about what they want to do. The devil is in the details.
     
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    The t-bag idea is to have a government like Afganistan, free-market, no government regulation, and no taxes. They also like religion and religious dictators to tell them what to say, so the ideal government would be like Iran. So the type of government t-bags like is a combination of Afgan government and Iran government. If T-bags don't like the USA governemnt, they should move to Afganistan where there is no real government and free for all free market no tax society.
     
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    I'm sorry, who exactly holds these beliefs? Apparently you are talking about a group of socially conservative free market folks. Who represents these people? What website should I go to to read their platform? Who are their leaders exactly?

    The representation of the Tea Party you are claiming is universal I certainly don't identify with personally. As far as I know however, there is no such thing as a literal " Tea Party", nor is there an organized set of shared beliefs for people across the libertarian / conservative far right. Most right wing people I talk to, even on these boards are vastly apart on several points, especially in regards to militarism and social issues.

    Using low-brow catch phrases like "T-Baggers" puts you in the same category as O'Reilly, Beck, Maddow and all the other entertainers who throw around insults because they don't have enough information to actually defend their positions with real arguments.
     
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    The problem with the Tea party agenda is that it invokes a "think and act local" policy, which is praiseworthy at one level, but it absolutely ignores the fact that a well resourced major corporation can, has, and will continue to walk all over local concerns which do not have the resources to stop them.

    Make no mistake, if you want to keep big corporations honest, you need big Government, period. That of course is why the mouthpieces of the corporations are against big Government and all its organs.

    Take the question of "Fracking" as an example. What hope has a single local rural community got of stopping the likes of an Exxon?
     
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    We have never had a free market economy my friend. If you consider this an incorrect statement, please go back and review the basics of macro-economics. The United States has always been a mixed market economy because economic decisions of some degree have always been made by government(s). The belief that the United States can reach a true status of a free market economy is not feasible.
     
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    What a retarded O.P.

    First off, go to a TEA Party event. You are spouting off ignorant B.S. that are not even TEA Party beliefs. It would be like me saying, Liberals idea of a "better economy" would be to surrender to China at once and then everyone goes on welfare and we make China pay for it while we plant trees and stop taking baths.

    Dirty Hippie Parasites that have no idea where their entitlement checks come from like Montoya should not even be voting. The guy does not know basic Civics. Thank us for paying for your existence and take a (*)(*)(*)(*) bath.
     
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    Montoya; I'm not trying to pop your bubble, but you do realize "full control" has meaning and until Brown was sworn in, they did have full control (filibuster PROOF), don't you? What few legislative actions or more to the point "appointments", were held up by "blue dog democrats", heading into the election, desperately trying to hold onto their jobs, which did help them maintain a Senate simple majority.

    The "**********s" simply want the Federal Government to adhere to the Constitution, which is the foundation of this Country. Don't you believe every successful Country should have some guideline to work with, which in this case has plenty of guidance for change. Since you are calling yourself a progressive, might I suggest you encourage change under that guideline, as all law since 1789, has been linked to???
     
  12. Montoya

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    And you call yourself an American? Your post reeks of ignorance. You show me where in the constitution it says people are collecting unempoyment shoould not be allowed to vote? You are every thats wrong with America you and your kind have no room for flexibility and call all others "unamerican". Pathetic.
     

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