The more Godless America becomes, the more 'uncivil' it also becomes

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  1. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The more Godless America becomes, the more 'uncivil' it also becomes

    Watching the 'celebration' following the capture of Suspect #2 of the Boston Bombing, and remembering the DC celebration of killing Bin Laden, with the drunken chants of "USA USA.." by mostly college 'kids,' the difference in generations has become all to apparent...and for the worse!

    My old college days had drinking (responsible) and partying, but we never went out and hunched on the beach in public as drunken animals during our 'Easter' break.

    And while watching some of the home videos taken by the local Boston college students, about every other word had to be 'bleeped' out due to profanity of the moment.

    Over the past 10 yrs I have watched some videos taken by passengers on airplanes where there was an emergency situation, and ppl were cursing with GD's and disrespectful JC's during the going down process.

    Reminds me of the scripture in Revelation of those going thru the Tribulation,

    Revelation 16:11
    "...and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but they refused to repent of what they had done."

    Sounds like we are just around the corner from 'that place!'

    The oncoming onslaught of Reality TV shows, such as Ax Men, Wicked Tuna, etc. that I enjoy watching myself, still have large portions of the dialog 'bleeped' out due to the unbridled and uncontrolled profanity.

    The days of not cursing in front of children & women (women curse more than many men these days) out of 'respect' are long gone. America has become a rude & uncivil nation of which I often feel no longer as an American Son (and having served her in the military during war time) but more of a 'legal alien' watching her decadence take her down, which I believe is primarily a result of her 'forgetting God." I'm not talking just about atheists, but also secular 'Christians' who use the same GD's, etc. w/o regards to any kind of 'holiness' or respect being demonstrated in their lives ......

    And now, let the uncivil responses begin>>>>>>
     
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    If I am correct, one of the Babylonian tablets translated reads something about how the youth of today are going downhill.

    Japan is a "godless" society, and far more civil than the USA.

    Your last line there is quite rude.
     
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    Oh noes. People are using words you've been conditioned to be offended by. Our country is ruined.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    seriously, what is the religious right gonna do, force people to believe in their god, have a inquisition, make biblical laws and lock people away for not believing like them?

    "The Palin Principle – Bible trumps Constitution"

    http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/201...nt-to-base-law-on-bible-and-ten-commandments/

    "Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant — they’re quite clear — that we would create law based on the God of the bible and the ten commandments." - Palin
     
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    Great, another rapturist hoping for Armageddon next week.
     
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    Actually, the USA became more uncivil and more divided when the right wing talebangelists took over the airwaves while spewing hate and intolerance.
     
  7. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No rapturist here! But if the Tribulation happens in my lifetime, I plan on going "thru" it, but not "in" it.

    I'm just commenting on the 'signs of the times" that lead up to those of that generation...
     
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    What makes you believe you won't be "in it"?
     
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    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1 Thessalonians 5

    5 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that aught be written unto you.

    2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

    3 When they are saying, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall in no wise escape.

    4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief:

    5 for ye are all sons of light, and sons of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness;

    6 so then let us not sleep, as do the rest, but let us watch and be sober.

    7 For they that sleep sleep in the night: and they that are drunken are drunken in the night.

    8 But let us, since we are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for a helmet, the hope of salvation.

    9 For God appointed us not into wrath, but unto the obtaining of salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,

    * Some may see believers in Jesus Christ being 'removed', but from these versus I dont necessarily see it that way! And so I mentally prepare myself to go 'thru' it...being sober of mind!
     
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    Godless countries are so uncivil... Sweden.... a daily war zone.
     
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    Hopefully you will not consider this uncivil but you have failed to demonstrate cause and effect.. Just because two or more events occur within the same time frame does not demonstrate any cause and effect linkage.

    This is something pretty widely accepted called statistics
     
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    And Japan.

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    And Japan.
     
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    I understand you're not A rapturist and believe you will go "thru" it, I don't understand why you then think you won't be "in it".
     
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    "In" it means experiencing the wrath of God on all the rebellious of 'that time' who culminate rebellious mankind upon the earth.

    My studies take into account the 7 OT Feasts, of which 3 have already happened during the Church Age (Passover, Unleavened Bread, & 1st Fruits, aka Pentecost) with 4 to go..the last being the Feast of Tabernacles or Booths. Where each build their 'booth,' usually atop their houses per traditions, and stay in there for "7 days" (a type of 7 yrs of the Trib) and are protected & sustained by their provisions, or types of preparations--I see as spiritual in meaning).

    Types are OT examples of God's plans for the future (one ex: as Abraham called the father of the Israel nations sacrificing his only son of the promise as a lamb upon the altar as commanded by God--a 'type' but not the actual as God stopped Abraham from killing Isaac).

    And so study of more than dead letters on printed pages is necessary to understand the future plans of God...most Christians are ignorant , but even St. Clement, a 2nd generation Apostle of around 100 AD, talked about 'types' 11 times in his Epistle To the CORINTHIANS.

    And so those who have built their 'spiritual booth' will be "atop" and not "in" the Trib---whether it be actual physically or spiritually in another place. A mystery of God not for unbelievers to know, or for the believers to know until the time ('seasons,' etc. per 1 Thessalonians 5:1,4)
     
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    Dude, you're going to fry like everyone else.
     
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    Too many & most fundamentalists read the fantastic OT stories such as Noah & the Flood, Jonah & the Whale, as literal but I see them as 'inspired' types of future events.

    In the case of Noah & the Flood, it is a type of judgment & tribulation upon the earth, with righteous Noah and family going above the tribulation in an ark, or 'tabernacle!'

    And as the previous scripture,

    1 Thessalonians 5

    3 When they are saying, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall in no wise escape.

    or likewise ref'd by Jesus,

    Matthew 24

    36 But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.

    37 And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.

    38 For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,


    Our 'booths' or also called 'tabernacles' are there to 'protect/cover' those who follow the words of Christ during the trib period upon the earth.

    And in regards to the 'inspired story' of Jonah another type, where Jonah spent 3 days in the belly of the whale and was then spit up upon the land, Jesus ref'd in saying

    Luke 11:29

    "As the crowds increased, Jesus said, "This is a wicked generation. It asks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah."

    As He spent 3 days in the heart of the earth and resurrected thereafter.

    So looking at scripture 'in the context in which it was inspired" and it's spiritual meanings, is very important to understanding the plans of God.

    How's that for 'proper interpretation' of the scriptures..., Dude..?!
     
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    Sounds like a case of my generation is so much better than the youth of today syndrome.
    Seems like every old person says it at some point in their life.
    Been hearing that starting with my grandparents, parents, now some in my generation are saying it. I hope I don't.

    Ever see reruns on old TV shows.
    I doubt it has anything to do with Godless.
     
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    Every 'sane' person must see that over the past 50 yrs, the world and esp the U.S. is moving at an 'exponential' rate, and at how far can it continue on that pace? B4, global anarchy (such as over water & food), nuclear war, etc. Only the 'ostriches' of society could say things are always as there were...'peace & safety, peace & safety...." [Read my previous post! 1 Thessalonians 53 When they are saying, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them]
     
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    On commenting on the drunken college' kids' yelling "USA, USA..." as just another sporting event. Most of them have no idea of the history of this country (other than some 'revisionist history, where nothing America did was ever for the good!) as polls of their knowledge of American History from elementary school thru HS is atrocious. Most can barely place a few countries on a global map..let alone identify with the blood spilled by patriots for their present state of freedom in this country!

    And young feminist women are complaining about man-boys and not finding good husband material from the immature video gamers hiding in their parent's basements while living off of them as 'unweaned' mammals...disgusting!
     
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    Can you explain this. why do you call the ark a tabernacle.
     
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    And before 50 years we had WWI, WWII, the Korean war and Vietnam...and that was just us.
     
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    I have a question for all 'you' American patriots out there reading this thread:

    The larger portion of my generation served both in the military and with the Peace Corp while growing up. They 'served' their country!

    And now, that the life expectancy is 85+ yrs, why is it mandatory that the youth go to college following HS at 18 yo? Why not postpone college etc. and serve their country for 3 yrs, learning what both their country & the world are all about?

    Then they wouldnt be leeches living off the blood of those who keep her safe, but would be part of her heritage as being 'for the good.'

    If the youth of today are not 'vested' in this country, then they have nothing to defend and fall prey to any philosophy that comes along...aka, 'socialism,' where the few support the many and individual motivation dies....

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    We 'started' all those wars, or got in to defend our allies (aka, 'friends')?! Better chk your revisionist history!
     
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    So anybody who doesn't serve in the military is a "leech"?
     
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    "The larger portion of my generation served both in the military and with the Peace Corp while growing up. They 'served' their country!"

    Hmmm, no they didn't.
     
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    What is their sacrifice for the advancement or protection of this country? Playing video war games in preparation?!

    Let's see: we've had WWI and WWII, what would WWIII look like now that there are 8-10 nuclear countries ? I'm sure that you have it all planned out as in 'not ever happening,' huh?
     
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