The Nazi Party was not Right-Wing

Republicans aren't trying to "conserve" any freedoms.

They are trying to roll them back!!!

 

Libertarians are right wing anti authoritarian.

 

WRONG

there are also left-wing Libertarians.

 

Rolling back obamacare restores your freedom to make your own health care choices.

Rolling back social security restores your freedom to plan your own retirement.

Rolling back the welfare state restores property rights.

Expanding freedom to humans throughout their life cycle is rolling them out, not back.

 

meanwhile you support rolling back civil rights, voting rights, and abortion rights.

you support banning marijuana, banning assisted suicide.

you support govt. spying on Muslims.

you support cracking down on immigrants.

you sir, are an Authoritarian.

 

Called "liberaltarians" these people are anti authoritarian socialists. Not libertarian. Liberty to do what you want with your money and where you spend it is a core philosophy of libertarianism. The people you are talking about are basically Green Party or progressive socialists.

 

FAIL!!!

there are left wing anarchists.

 

Anarcho communist types are not true anarchists. They will tell you what to do and how to live your life. I lived on a commune that was supposed to operate this way. Was a big inefficient disaster. Anarchy is stupid anyway. Would lead to tribal warfare etc... if done on a big scale. Government is necessary to protect life and property. All other purposes and designs it has are not legitimate.

Here is a primer on anarcho communism. Notice to live your life under this system you will have dozens of overlords distributing housing, jobs, deoderant, cars etc...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism

 

Fascism is about the people in the eyes of a fascist as the people are priori of the state.

Most of 20th and 21st century socialist thought has been where Marx went wrong. The fascist notion of a subjective dialectic is one of these approaches.

 

Give actual evidence please. The hyper inflation period in Germany was during the early 20's It was well under control by the time Hitler took over.

 

There was no inflation during the Nazi peace time because of price controls.

Their was a Reich Comissioner of Price Controls as early as 1933. His name was Carl Goerdeler.

I guess that blows your made up argument out if the water.

If you want to stop being wrong stop making (*)(*)(*)(*) up.

 

Fine. "Equality of outcome". But I can't name a country to the contrary because you don't see the distinction between distinct levels of society (and as few as possible) and a slope.

To answer your question "Who decides?", that would be the people already higher up than you. They deem if you are worthy of greater reward and responsibility. It's almost capitalistic, except that only one entity makes these decisions: the state. Whereas in capitalism, indirectly, everyone decides how much wealth we should give you.

And yeah I agree, it is very much like a caste system. Remember, I'm not arguing communism isn't despicable, I'm arguing that fascism is not left wing.

And with regards to the Nolan chart: you say "left wing", but the left side of the Nolan chart is not the same as the left wing of the linear left-right scale. The left side of the nolan chart shows how much control the government has in the economy. Both Fascists, and to a greater extent Communists, are here. But Fascist do so for different reasons and get different results: fascism creates a hierarchy based on value to the state, whereas communism tries as much as possible to make people equal in wealth and power. That's the problem: you are conflating the left of the Nolan chart with the left-wing of a different spectrum, but they aren't the same because they measure different things (the Nolan chart measures freedom, the left-right spectrum measures equality). I've said that already though, how many times do I need to repeat it before you get it?

 

Dear slope,

Is a caste system basically what you are sugar coating by comparison?

 

Precisely. This is why fascism enjoyed more popular support, because it was still possible to get ahead in life and be rewarded for your work - you just had to suck-up to the regime more than others to do so.

 

That isn't capitalism at all. If anything it is a weak argument for meritocracy, because loyalty to the party line is a requirement. In capitalism the capitalist individual decides for themselves how to apply their talent to and to what effect.

So caste systems are promote equality? In what sense of that word? Equality of outcome? Equality under the law? Equality of opportunity?

not sure by the nolan chart as a term but i will take your word for it. This is all i wanted to say in the last 40 pages.

degrees

de facto vs de jure

what communist example are you drawing from? What version of the 3 equalities are you talking about?

I am talking about the chart I have illustrated in specifics in the last dozen pages. If the Nolan chart is different that is not what I mean. I mean left v right anti authoritarian vs authoritarian.

Equality is an economics argument. Governments and powerful leftists always use the excuse of equality to shower themselves and their friends with big cash money and they rationalize it is good for the people. Consider Barack Obama. Let me know a specific and I will graph it for you and we can see if there is more we can agree on.

 

The NAZIs were a minority party until they began killing their opponents. Fear is not popularity.

Did soviet rocket scientists live like the people?

 

Agreed.

The fact that rightists are unable to cite a single regime they consider rightist merely exposes where they're coming from.

It is moderate capitalistic governments with a strong social conscience such as Australia, Sweden, Canada, Norway, Switzerland, United States, Denmark, Netherlands, Iceland, and the United Kingdom that demonstrably work best,for their citizens, not airy-fairy extremist confections imagined by ideological zealots.

 

America pre 1913. Far Right wing, semi authoritarian.

Since then, Hong Kong is the closest. Singapore. Pinochet is a right wing dictator if you want one. All of Western Europe and North America is right of center.

 

So then you apparently have no idea about the source of this so called debate.

 

The Republicans, who are all for taking money from the people and giving it to the military and military contractors, producers, etc are socialists.

 

Funny how they want to create new definitions for the left while apparently having no ideas of any kind about the right.

 

No, they got those direct from God.

 

Every ideology understands the need for a military. Obama does. What don't you get? Also you can't name a leftist nation without one.

You take money from the people for things that are not at all necessary.

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Did you dodge all the specific questions I posted to you? Ok. Lets keep it easy.

What US president was economically left of hitler.

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I still wait for my specific move hitler took to the right economically. Why is taking so long? Find anything in the 25 points they didn't do yet?

 

How have you missed the 50 times it's been explained to you already?

 

I still await for my specific policy. Excuses. Pointing to nothing. Obsfuscation. Dodging....but no specific polices so far that were a step towards the right. Not one.

Get back to me on the 25 points thing too. You dodged. Which ones didnt they implement?