The predicted bloodshed is coming

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  1. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    1. Shows that there is not a "spike" in infections, there is a "spike" in discovering those already infected. Huge difference.
    2. Lowers the death rate, raises the recovery rate.
    3. Calms the weak knees down, and helps stop their "Trump ain't testin nobody" talking point.
     
  2. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but both are possible.

    In the last 10 days, new cases have doubled every 3 days.

    The mortality rate will be higher in the US than in Canada or Europe.

    More diabetics, more heart problems, more preconditions in general.
     
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    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    New cases diagnosed due to expanded testing. Cases are not doubling, the revelation of preexisting cases are. Big difference.

    Oh? What will the death rate be for the US vs the one in Europe?
     
  4. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the cases are doubling evey 3 days.

    You can tell by counting the deaths.

    Unless you're claiming the authorities are lying about victim counts.
     
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    The death count is doubling every 2 to 3 days, just like the detection count. And we don't know the death rate yet. In Italy it appears to be holding at over 10%. In China, over 5%. In Spain, 8%. And they are significantly farther along in testing than we are per capita.
     
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    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    The fantasy crap that comes from some folks on the left about gun confiscation. You didn't think this out. Trump is not going to send anyone to confiscate guns. Our Sheriff refuses to enforce state law about gun magazines. He isn't going to come after anyone's guns. I know him personally. He told me that anyone that doesn't own a gun where I live is a moron. You use some common sense and quit dreaming up nonsense scenarios.
     
  7. Rugglestx

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    Newly detected cases are not new cases of infection.

    Person A
    Person B
    Person C
    Are all infected

    Day 1 Person A is tested
    Day 2 Person B&C are tested

    Infected Cases did not triple overnight, detected cases did. The number of infected people did not triple over night, the known number of infected people did. Huge difference. If there were not a huge difference then as long as you were never tested the virus would be harmless to you!

    What can you tell by counting the dead? What does that have to do with the number of infected? Nothing at all...no ideal what you are trying to get at now. The only impact the number of dead has on numbers is on the death rate, which will drop as more test confirm more infections.

    But I get it, you predicting 450,0000 dead in the US so you have to find new ways to make the math work for you.
     
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    Gun confiscation is a myth. It's simply undoable in America.

    Is there anything the left won't try and pin on Turmp...anything at all?
     
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    It informs us of what we need to prepare for.

    It identifies places where more movement restrictions may be required to prevent further growth.
     
  10. LogNDog

    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    They have no real understanding about how the military works and soldiers attitudes about gun ownership. They just figure the military will blindly go and try to take guns away from people without questioning or any push back. There is no thought behind that fantasy.
     
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    Wow.

    Our actions need to be guided by growth rates and projections.

    And, the total number of cases washes out you concern that collected data is meaningless.
     
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    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    Trump is going to try and get my guns? Why would he designate gun stores as an essential business then?

    Feds Add Gun Companies to ‘Essential’ Business List Amid Coronavirus Outbreak
    The Department of Homeland Security added gun dealers, ranges, and manufacturers to its essential business coronavirus-response guide on Saturday.

    The updated guidance from DHS's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) now considers "workers supporting the operation of firearm or ammunition product manufacturers, retailers, importers, distributors, and shooting ranges" to be essential. Those industry workers are listed under the designation for "law enforcement, public safety, and other first responders."

    The change comes after some state and local officials have shut down gun stores and manufacturing plants around the country. The federal guidelines could influence how state and local officials implement lockdown orders moving forward. Demand for firearms has skyrocketed in response to the uncertainty surrounding the global pandemic, even as shutdowns in some states have closed the only legal avenue for purchases. Some officials cited the lack of DHS guidance to defend those closures.
    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-...tial-business-list-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/
     
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    Amen.

    The modern US Military would not turn on US citizen and disarm them in mass. Would not happen.
     
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    don't panic, no one coming for your guns, not even Trump

     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was replying to a poster showing someone pointing a gun at those police there to take guns
     
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    LOL, yeah, most of them are gun clinging conservatives that took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same".
     
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    That was my post you replied to.

     
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    Do you think the death rate will be between 5-10%? No official group or organization in the world is pushing an number anywhere close to that.
     
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    You realize that the increase is due to vastly more testing and not all new infections don't you? It was Biden/Obama that wasted time and cost lives.
     
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    At least we know what we are dealing with......and it brings the death ratio per case down.
     
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    yep, and you picture shows someone pointing their gun at the gov coming for their guns... that is what I was replying too
     
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    Who cares?

    These are cases that were unknown.
     
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    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    The world knew, a month before Trump, that the coronavirus was going to be a major pandemic and that extreme measures had to be put in place as soon as the first cases appeared.

    In addition, just before the US was hit, we could measure the extent of the disaster in Europe and prepare for it accordingly.

    Nothing useful has been done and tens of millions of American will be infected.
     
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    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    We've known for six weeks what we're dealing with.

    Several other countries were infected before the US.
     
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    So a new person getting infected is the same as a new person being confirmed thru a test as already being infected. That’s your train of thought?
    Brilliant.
     
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