The release of 5,000 additional hours of video from the Jan. 6

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  1. StillBlue

    StillBlue Well-Known Member

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    If I show you hundreds of hours of security camera tape from dozens of banks showing no robbery, including some from the bank I robbed, does that negate my having robbed the bank because there's only 10 minutes of me doing so?

    I don't care if there's a million hours of video from Jan 6th showing no violence because no matter how much you show it does not negate the video of police fighting to protect themselves and Congress and people destroying the property of all of us.
     
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    and who was in charge of the government on January 6, 2020.
     
  3. Shutcie

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    You miss the point.
    The Jan. 6 committee claimed that the insurrection fomented by Trump was aimed at a violent take over of the government, that the goal was always to keep Biden from office.

    As part of this attempt, Trump called up his minions and after getting them fired up, sent them to the capitol to take it, stop the election certification, hold hostages, and ultimately see Trump be sworn in as president.

    The video does not show a coordinated effort to take control of the capitol, take hostages, or stop the election certification. It shows a crowd of angry, excited *******s damaging our capitol, roaming about the capitol taking pretty much anything not nailed down (one of the big insults was that the beer was stolen from Nancy Pelosi's refrigerator) and ultimately, leaving. No weapons beyond poles, no demand for hostages, no securing of doors to keep cops or the military out, no takeover of the senate chambers.

    Now there was a lot of testimony and documentation about what led up to January 6.
    Most of that has been hidden away.
    There was a lot of testimony and documentation about communication between various groups on January 6.
    Most of that has been hidden away.

    So, you can turn a blind eye, accept the committee findings, refuse to question why so much has been locked away until anyone who cares is long dead, and claim Trump tried to violently overthrow the government.

    Which proves my point.
    Much easier to fool people (with a professionally edited and produced prime time circus) than to convince them they've been fooled (by whatever it is the committee has hidden away).

    I understand.
    If you start questioning what our leadership has been telling us, and conclude they lied to us, well, that creates a whole bunch of other problems, doesn't it?

    Starting with; Why would they feel the need to lie to us? And if they lied about this, what else have they lied about?
     
  4. FatBack

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    Nothing destroys the truth faster than stretching it to fit your agenda.

    If the orange man was so very bad you wouldn't have to make up half truths.
     
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    The baseless conspiracy theories you are promoting add nothing to the conversation and are not backed by evidence. Why are you demanding more than you are willing to provide yourself?
     
  6. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Watch all the videos… and yes the Capitol police DID incite the peaceful crowd.
     
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    The "peaceful crowd" that was chanting for Pence's execution and breaking down the doors and windows? That "peaceful crowd"? Or were you talking about the other people trespassing and attempting to interfere with the vote count?
     
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  8. popscott

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    I see you failed to watch all the videos before you posted… you can only regurgitate what the blessed J6 scam committee threw at you… yes there were some bad actors…. And some may well have been federal plants….
     
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    I'm simply talking about the footage we already had. Which you think we should ignore for reasons you can't explain. There was a pretty massive mob doing this. Not just "a few bad actors." You can only regurgitate what braindead right-wing blogs throw at you. And I'm not going to dignify the completely unsubstantiated conspiracy theory you tried to weasel in at the end.
     
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    Like I said… you regurgitate the J6 videos “you already had” there were MANY cameras that day and there are many videos you either have not seen or are not willing to see…
    I have quite the selection of the videos that show the bad actors were the Capitol Police inciting the crowd..
    I would be happy to share.
     
  11. yardmeat

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    That's probably because you think that Capitol Police attempting to disperse a trespassing crowd is somehow "inciting." I'm just tired of this whole, "Hey, here is one of the protestors just checking his phone. Therefore, the protest was peaceful" deception.
     
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    Not at all the Capitol police incited the peaceful crowd

    What did the fake scam J6 not show you, they did not show how the Capitol Police riled up a peaceful crowd... you won't see that on CNN or in the illegit and unconstitutional committee's videos that put out to the public..
    I'm seeing there may be a reason the peaceful crowd went from peaceful to violent.... Flash bangs and pepper spray tend to piss people off when they are peaceful... taken one guy aside and beating him with their fist in front of them may be another...

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1421942908954062853

    https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/...d-jan-6-crowd-by-firing-flash-bangs-tear-gas/

    https://www.worldtribune.com/report...d-jan-6-crowd-by-firing-flash-bangs-tear-gas/

    https://rumble.com/vj4p3j-capitol-police-throw-flashbangs-on-peaceful-crowd-january-6-2021.html

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...rats-media-dc-police-refuse-release-evidence/

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    @yardmeat

    There was not adequate security that day.... the direct responsibility of the CP and overseer Pelosi and ilk....there was intel and guards authorized to repel any such crowd... there would have been no protester being flash banged and pepper sprayed to incite the peaceful crowd that day... yea... those videos that the committee left out showing the CP inciting the peaceful crowd on the west wing... flash bangs, rubber bullets, tear gas, pepper spray.... and last but not least a protester being physically beaten with fists by the CP in front of the peaceful crowd... all on video, except not the video the J6 showed...
     
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    You won't see this on the blessed fake CNN or fake WaPo
    interesting when the CP is holding the door open for the bad guys...
    2:30 p.m.

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    So you don't understand that they use flash bangs and pepper spray to quell violence. Got it.
     
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    CP leading the protesters in....
    2:40 p.m.

    0126USCS01UpperWestTerrace_2021-01-06_14h40min01s843ms.mp4

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    House west wing 3:09
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    Watch the video instead of posting unintelligent ramblings.... there was not violence in the video...until the CP started it...
     
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    The "It's Pelosi's fault" conspiracy theory has been debunked. And there's nothing wrong with using flash bangs and pepper spray to disperse a trespassing crowd. They were committing a crime. And please show me any instance of a protester being physically beaten that was unjustified.
     
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    Pelosi was directly involved in not having the Capitol security at a level to control the crowd.... Ashli Babbitt's blood is on her hands.... that is the job of the CP and overseer Pelosi and her ilk... they failed.... no excuse.
     
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    Ashli Babbit's blood is on no hands but her own. And your conspiracy theory has been repeatedly debunked. No excuse.
     

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