The theory that some people get placebos instead of the vaccine

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  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    No. It is batshit. You need to logoff and somehow learn something useful.

    Did you check this batshit? Did you attempt any scientific methodology. No, of course not.

    See batshit, post batshit. Disregard everything disproving batshit.

    It's almost frightening how gullible you are. How many people are in on this specific piece of batshit?
     
  2. Scott

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    This person says she and her colleagues tested different vaccines and found thirty five different levels of toxicity. Start watching at the 45:25 time mark to get to the important part. At the 1:09:20 time mark she says her team found no placebos in their study, only very low levels of toxicity in some batches.

    DR. POORNIMA WAGH'S TEAM TEST INGREDIENTS 2305 VIALS OF COVID-19 INJECTION - THE SHOCKING FACTS!
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/CyofwS3298cy/
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Explain why you keep spamming videos of this fake doctor?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I listened to her for a few moments. I think she has misunderstood the claim of the chiropractor talking about snake venom. I watched several interviews with the man, including by Mike Adams, and he did not claim (as I understood him last year) that snake venom itself is in the shots (some of them), but rather that on the molecular level, some of the proteins and enzymes found in the shots are chemically identical to those found in the Krait venom.
     
  5. Scott

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    I wondered about that too. I haven't had time to go back and listen again.

    I just searched around and found this. I think it's his latest.

    Dr. 'Bryan Ardis' "I Was Wrong About Snake Venom" | The Dr. 'Jane Ruby' Show
    https://rumble.com/v1wvqlq-dr.-bryan-ardis-i-was-wrong-about-snake-venom-the-dr.-jane-ruby-show.html


    I don't have time to watch it now but I'm posting it anyway.
     
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  6. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I watched a few minutes of it, and yes, there is similarity between enzymes and proteins of snake venoms that has been found in patients with covid. It's been written about in several different countries and medical/scientific journals.
     
  7. Scott

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    So they haven't been milking thousands of snakes. I wonder if that's what Poornima thought.
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Really? That was what you wondered after watching your total horseshit video? Whether a bogus doctor was making up crap about snakes?

    You need to logoff and listen to your sister, you are just lost down the rabbit-hole.
     
  9. Scott

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    I'm not in a position to know what's in those vaccines but I pòst different stuff I see anyway so it can be discussed. Are you in a position to know? You seem to just be dismissing it with no other reason than its sounding silly to you. Knee-jerk dismissal is not the scientific method*.


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    https://www.google.com/search?q=sci...12l7.9769j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#mmc=1
     
  10. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Bullshit. You don't post anything for discussion, you post it to convince others to join team batshit. There will never be a point where you are in any position to understand anything related to this topic .

    I'm in a position where I am confident enough to rely on logic, critical thinking and the integrity of the medical profession, against the utterly ludicrous nature of the total batshit claims being presented with zero evidence, zero logic and by idiotic people with ulterior motives.

    You are the least likely person on the internet to use any scientific methodology. You keep spamming a link that is as alien to you as any subject you dump your garbage in.

    As for dismissing it because it's "silly", this is where YOU demonstrate how the evidence you presented actually uses ANY scientific method. You will not, you will never do this, nor could you because nothing you ever present even comes close to using such methodology!
     
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    especially the Trump admin
     
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    Which no longer exist. Allow the bad orange man to leave your mental space....
     
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    What I'm curious about is whether the shots contain those similar venom properties, or does somehow the mRNA cause the body to manufacture those enzymes and proteins?
     
  14. Scott

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    Yeah, I wish he'd go into more detail.
     
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    but did exist at the time we are referring too, lol, do you want to blame Biden for warp speed too now?
     
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    I applaud your curiosity. Here's the thing, go out and get some damn education on the matter instead of believing batshit?
     
  17. Scott

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    The problem is that the mainstream educators seem to be teaching misinformation.

    Here are some examples.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...gives-false-positives.592809/#post-1072987867

    THE CDC
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/xolrzSy4SA0s/


    What you call "batshit" seems to be people who know the mainstream educators are teaching misinformation and are trying to figure out what the real truth is.


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    Also, let's hear your opinion of what these people say. Do you consider this to be "batshit"?

    THE TESTIMONIES PROJECT - THE MOVIE [2021-09-19] - VAXX TESTIMONIES (VIDEO)
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/woXccQifv5Id/
     
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  18. Betamax101

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    You are not qualified to determine this, since your main criteria is to automatically dismiss experts that do not agree with your batshit. You then source ridiculous crap to back up your batshit and go round in an ever dwindling circle of knowledge.

    Bullshit. That is an example of an idiot orthopaedic surgeon, not qualified, making claims that are false. Identify in your links where she used the scientific method that you spam about but never use!

    Citing bad decisions in an era before and using them to create a false conclusion about the current pandemic. That's what "truthers" do isn't it! The reality is that these kind of screw-ups enable major lessons to be learnt and thus not repeated.
    1976 Swine Flu Vaccination Program | David J. Sencer CDC Museum | CDC
    Is batshit.

    You are not qualified to determine this, since your main criteria is to automatically dismiss experts that do not agree with your batshit. You then source ridiculous crap to back up your batshit and go round in an ever dwindling circle of knowledge.

    I consider it to be hearsay/anecdotal and questionable, given that it is in a movie. What renumeration were the participants given? Show me any of the accounts where you have used ANY follow up research to determine validity! Further, why are you using isolated so called examples to make a generalization that this is rife?

    I know a quite considerable number of people through my personal contacts and not one person has suffered anything worse than a mild case of flu, post vaccination. How's that for anecdotal hearsay! Let's look at the sporting industry and the fake news surrounding the number of on field illnesses, the MLB/NBA continues as normal, that is a quite considerable number of famous people, Soccer, Football, Athletics, events such as the World Cup of cricket and soccer, the TV industries all continue, the Movie industry all around the world. Where are all the people dying like the bullshit fake news suggested!?
     
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  19. Scott

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    Tell is if you think these are the real statistics.
    https://yournews.com/2022/06/11/235...e-deaths-are-1700-higher-than-expected-since/
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    An investigation of official statistics has found that the number of athletes who have died since the beginning of 2021 has risen exponentially compared to the yearly number of deaths of athletes officially recorded between 1966 and 2004.

    So much so that the monthly average number of deaths between January 2021 and April 2022 is 1,700% higher than the monthly average between 1966 and 2004, and the current trend for 2022 so far shows this could increase to 4,120% if the increased number of deaths continues, with the number of deaths in March 2022 alone 3 times higher than the previous annual average.
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    If you think they aren't real, tell us what the real ones are.
     
  20. Betamax101

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    I've had a cursory look at this and have isolated 3 major problems. I want to know 2 things before I post this.

    What will be your reaction when I expose this batshit?
    Will it make any difference to your useless research and automatic belief of batshit?

    I know they aren't real, I used a little of the scientific methodology to isolate problems, why haven't you!?
     
  21. Scott

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    You have a record of having the attitude that you've exposed something when you obviously haven't. If you've actually exposed it, I'll just say so as I just want the truth to win. If you're playing one of your games, I'll say you're playing one of your games.

    This is a presumptuous question. I know this is second-hand info. If it turns out to be wrong, I'll just say so. In post #69 does it look like I'm saying that I'm one hundred percent sure that those are the real figures.?

    This won't have any substance until you've explained what you did.
     
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    I don't play games , I just kick your butt. And please don't insult everyone who has ever crossed your path by suggesting you want "truth" to win. You are the total opposite of this!

    You never say that! You come out with your routine crap about "if it turns out to be wrong".

    Ok, the first thing anyone should do is read the data. You clearly haven't and probably never do. So a list of the bullshit attached to this:

    • The "link to the study" is NOT a link to the study. It is a link to the abstract that contains NONE of the actual study. Why is this important? Because it suggests that the user has not read the full study and is only concerned with sound-bytes. FULL STUDY.
    • The study is EXCLUSIVELY surrounding Sudden Cardiac Death and an age limit of 12-35.
    • The study used 8 scientific journals as its total source.
    • Further to the exclusive nature of SCD, it is further defined as such - "SCD is defined as a death occurring within 1 h of the onset of symptoms in a person without a previously recognized cardiovascular condition that would appear fatal."
    • The scope of reporting, limited to 8 journals is further elaborated in the FULL STUDY: "The most important limitation however is that SCD in young athletes as reported in the published and studied papers is certainly underestimated. Most of the events occur in youth potentially involved in sports activities, which are not reported in the literature. SCD is therefore likely to have comprised more than the 1101 athletes in the 38-year period across the world, which we reported. The lack of national or international registers and the uncertainty of the number of athletes involved forms the basis of this problem. An effort to inventory all cases of SCD in the future seems mandatory."
    • There was no internet.

    Now that details just a few issues in the figures from the study that your batshit site has completely ignored, not considered or just lied about. I will assume ALL 3 knowing what these misinformation websites are like. Now let's look at the source for THEIR "data" - HERE!
    • The entirety of the internet. I have no doubt that the people who did this exhausted every search and criteria that they could, given the way they deliberately set-out to skew the results.
    • The list of their people (in the first 20 alone!) - there are 8 people who fall out of the date range used in the study above! And that is by no means an inaccurate representation of their "data". Alarm bells should have been ringing when the FIRST one is 45 years old, many don't have an age noted.
    • The list is not even close to exclusively related to SCD!
    • NONE of the deaths have had their vaccination status confirmed!

    Cause of death first 10 on this pathetic list!
    1. First guy is too old and died of choking in a restaurant!
    2. No age, no name, no record, no cause of death!
    3. This man died after a long term battle with Multiple Myeloma, not SCD! Link here.
    4. This guy is 40 and too old for comparison. No cause of death!
    5. No cause of death found.
    6. This boy was 10 and too young for comparison. He died of a seizure and had a history of epilepsy!
    7. Died of a pulmonary embolism, NOTHING to do with the heart or SCD!
    8. Unnamed. Died of a suspected heart attack, vaccination status not established!
    9. Seizure related, nothing to do with SCD, he suspected the seizure was brought about by his fall.
    10. Suicide!
    Conclusion 1 probable SCD out of the first 10 in the list and that was a youngster with no vaccination status established!

    See what I did? I just destroyed this big pile of steaming horseshit, yet this is all over the internet on one batshit site after another. It is the basis for the bullshit film you spammed about sudden deaths. Now what, show me anywhere where you even as much as thought about any damn "scientific method" that you spam about.
     
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  23. Scott

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    I'm checking out your info. While I'm doing that, check out these hotlinks from what I posted.

    https://www.opindia.com/2021/11/mrn...e-possibility-of-coronary-diseases-study/amp/
    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712?s=09

    Here's some more stuff for for you and the viewers to check out. There are lots of hotlinks in the pages.

    At the top of this page there's a chart that shows an increase of athlete collapses and deaths that started at about the time of the vaccine rollout.
    https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/
    [​IMG]

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/athletes-collapsed-during-competition-cola/
    https://americasfrontlinedoctors.or...explained-deaths-among-fifa-athletes-in-2021/
    https://pennybutler.com/athletes-collapsing/

    More here...
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=numbe...B3749D5AC4407786C6FF92F5563E88&FORM=QBLH&sp=3
     
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    There's nothing to check! And why the hell didn't you do some checking in the first place!

    Check what!? Why don't you check it and do it properly. Try this!
    "Soon after publication of the above abstract in Circulation, it was brought to the American Heart Association Committee on Scientific Sessions Program’s attention that there are potential errors in the abstract. Specifically, there are several typographical errors, there is no data in the abstract regarding myocardial T-cell infiltration, there are no statistical analyses for significance provided, and the author is not clear that only anecdotal data was used."

    See batshit, post batshit. Not even the scantest of checks or any analyses. You are the comedy "truther".

    Unbelievable. I just spent an hour dismantling the crap you just posted and either you are too dumb to notice that graph is from the bullshit data I highlighted, or that you are too dishonest to care!

    "Goodsciencing.com" - the stinking irony from yet another batshit, lying misinformation website that attracts suckers.
     
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  25. Scott

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    Maybe I'm missing something but this...
    https://yournews.com/2022/06/11/235...e-deaths-are-1700-higher-than-expected-since/

    ...seems to be a study which compares the statistics from what you posted...
    https://academic.oup.com/eurjpc/article/13/6/859/5932831?login=false

    ...,which was published in 2006, to the statistics of the period between January of 2021 and April of 2022.

    (from post #72)
    You seem to be saying that the short recently published study that I posted is the abstract to the older study that you posted. They are two different studies. Tell me if I'm missing something.
     

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