The U.S. should never have been shutdown.

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  1. BasicHumanUnit2

    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    But.....that's not the point.
    As I said, it's a different chart.
     
  2. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    True, but according to BasicHuman the total number of deaths (worldwide), not just those that have died from the virus, is a fake number that is part of a conspiracy involving the whole world just to defeat Trump
     
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    Okay, so Brix and Fauci both lied to him/us.

    Birx said pandemic forecasts initially predicted 1.5 million to 2.2 million deaths in the U.S. But that was a worst-case scenario, without efforts to slow the spread of the coronavirus through social distancing. She added that states that have not yet seen a spike in cases as New York has could take action to flatten the curve of rising hospitalizations and deaths.

    https://fortune.com/2020/04/01/trump-models-240000-coronavirus-deaths/

    Oh. By the way S. Dakota is now up to 38 deaths.
    Same rate as Texas.
    And the Indians, like Canada, won't let the stupid Americans into their nation. :)
     
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  4. BasicHumanUnit2

    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    Wrong again sports fan.......
    I have ALWAYS maintained that there are indeed "some" deaths from covid-19, just not as many as the Fear Mongers want us to believe.

    So yes, the total number IS fake. NewYork already admitted this as I 've posted a link to many times.

    Unfortunately, you are unfamiliar with Globalists who's goal is to reduce or remove all national borders.
    Do you even know who they are? You will never be accepted into their ranks btw.
    Germany, the UK, France and most European nations have fallen prey to Globalists.
    G and H Bush were both Globalists. Obama is. Angela Merkel is.

    So, am I just that much more knowledgeable than you or are you simply that naive?
    since you will deny they exist.....here......

    Wall Street journal
    Trump’s Fight With the ‘Globalists’
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-fight-with-the-globalists-11569452919
     
  5. BasicHumanUnit2

    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    38 deaths..........

    And we should keep America on lockdown?

    Do you know how many Americans died of other causes in the time it took you to write that?
     
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    Remember Trump's chart?
    100,000 deaths with mitigation. 2.2 million deaths without mitigation.
    Why do you keep pretending the shut down has had no effect?
     
  7. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    When did New York admit that the REPORTED TOTAL NUMBER of deaths from ALL CAUSES is fake?
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    "pretending what"?
    of course the shutdown has had some effect.

    But the fact of the matter is that no nation can sustain a shutdown for long and it is time to shift
    gears and realize that we need to get the nation back working before it's too late.

    40,000 deaths per year in vehicles......should we shut down the use of cars and trucks?
    We must accept that life has risks. If we always lock everything down to avoid all risk life as we know it will cease.
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    "Truth and Justice",....how ironic.

    Once again you claim I said things I did not.
    NewYork clamied thousands of covid-19 deaths WITHOUT EVER TESTING THEM.
    LOOK IT UP
     
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    This is a bad'un but it's just one more risk we will have to deal with.
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    I have a solution......

    All people who think the shutdown should continue.....stay home....but don't ask to be supported by those who are brave.
    All other people who aren't collecting welfare or other gubbment support, and who need an income, return to work and reopen your businesses.

    For most people they won't even notice they have been infected.

    You will be "at risk" until the day you die.
    And the overwhelming odds say you won't die from covid-19

    But who the hell knows what next year will bring?
     
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    Go for it. I'll be here watching to see how that works out for you.
    Thanks.
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    Already had the virus.....it was a nothing burger

    I'd bet a dollar you already had it too....and never knew.
    (It won't affect the VAST MAJORITY of people.)
    Wear all the masks you want, the virus is out there on surfaces.
    it's likely that most will eventually be exposed to it one way or another.

    maybe 5% will get a slight sniffle for a day.
     
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    Post 115:
    You could start by explaining the increase in total deaths in New York for April compared to previous years?

    Post 204:
    Your link has nothing to do with the increase in total number of deaths in April compared to previous years for the same period. Do you want to try again

    Post 383:
    I see that you are still maintaining this belief yet you still haven't explained away the excess total deaths during the last few weeks in New York when compared to the same period in previous years.

    Perhaps you can point out where the virus is mentioned in my three posts above? Are you going to ignore it again?
     
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    I must say it is good to see that you now understand that it was Trump that forecast 2.2 million deaths and not the left.
     
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    Counter-point....

    All people who couldn't care less about my health don't ask for me to care about your paycheck, your business, your bills, etc.
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, he needs to get beaned for listening to fake experts who are clearly not out to help the current administration.
    He def needs to do some more firing.
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    So stay home indefinitely. Do not go to the grocery store (grocery stores are businesses). Don't pay any bills.
    Good luck.
     
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    Your argument might have some strength if the chart didn't nail the outcome with a shut down.
     
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    There is nothing in the world that could help out this administration. Trump has been on the road to entropy from the day he was born.
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    Impeach! Impeach! Impeach!
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    To be exact, there are still too many variables to "nail" it all down.
    Like many things in recent memory, perhaps we should give more time for all the facts to come to light.

    While stopping interactions between people may (or may not) have helped mitigate the virus spread, we don't yet know what the overall cost will be for doing a shutdown.

    Like I've pointed out many times, a growing crisis on the horizon is millions of people who's health care has been neglected and put on hold while fear mongering has shut down a large swath of routine health care for millions.

    as I said, too many variables.
     
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    A final thought.....
    regardless of how long we try to keep the nation on lockdown, the virus is not going away and will be lurking.
    Chances are we will see a re-emergence of COVID-19 for years to come.

    As always, man's best chance against this (and any) virus or pandemic is herd immunity, accepting that some are going to perish.
     

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