The Whore of Babylon

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The end times are upon us ... The great nation that arose under the banner of liberty and freedom has fallen .. whored herself out to the cheapest bidder ....

    The beast is the enslavement .. or rather self enslavement .. the system of justice the people have chosen - a violation of liberty - collectivist Utilitarianism - an anathema to the founding principle - respect for essential liberty - the rock on which Christ based his ministry.

    and in the end times ... No one will want to buy your goods no more .. this great empire fallen - the loss of US hegemony .. which in an etherial sense we can say US-Britain hegemony .. the British being the last world econimic empire .. that old money still around .. that which spawned the US- the grand experiment in Laissez faire capitalism .. and now transformed into the multi headed Oligopoly-Bureaucracy Fusion Monster. ..and ugly monster who lives at the far end of the spectrum where Extreme Capitalism and Extreme Socialism Meet.

    Let he who is wise understand the meaning --- in both cases a few elite end up owning all reasources and means of production - the rest of the people in serfdom slavery - the ugly beast that we have created manages to combine the worst elements of both into an ugly monster brothers and sisters.

    Yet the whore has fallen .. she has waged war on the world.. now recompence come .. no one wants to buy her goods no more ... US is losing hegemony....

    China has mediated and now Iran and El Saud are Brothers .. Assad joined the party as well.. The whore now kicked out of the ME .. having no influence to speak of .. the new Petro dollar will go to China - The sole reserve currency status Usurped ...

    And who is in the Middle of this latest **** storm ... The Shining Star .. at the top of the Hill in Jerusalem .. the top of Mount Zion ..heading up the 7 banks .. who control the beast!!

    This is the first chapter in the Prophetic utterance give to you. The end time come !
     
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    Human consciousness is in a constant state of evolution, both on an individual and collective level. Both capitalism and socialism have provided a means for consciousness to develop, and their contrast with eachother has provided on a global scale the conflict necessary to push on to something more suitable for further refinement of human consciousness.
    Both capitalism and communism/socialism taken to their extremes can be terrible, and both systems are easily taken advantage of and manipulated by elites for personal gain. I think more and more these systems are falling apart, inadequate for continuing development of human consciousness.
    Previously, both have required the vast majority to feed energy to a small number of elites who were free to impose their wills on reality. But advances in technology brought about by some of these elites have had the effect of being a catalyst for a much larger segment of the population to be able to expand their consciousness, to the point where old systems are no longer suitable for the expansion to continue. This expanding collective consciousness is bringing with it new systems and vehicles that will be able to support the next stage in the evolution of human consciousness. Tools like AI will allow a much larger segment of the population to be free to expand, and escape the trend of “living to work”, and instead have the ability to “work to live”, or to pursue more easily the activities that allow them to become their “higher selves”.
    I think society as we know it will soon be going through some fundamental changes, and though it will go through some serious growing pains, I think humanity as a whole will be much better for it in the end.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    It seems the Bible is a dangerous book for the vulnerable to read.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting read but does not address "The Beast" -- The Oligopoly-Bureaucracy Fusion Monster - in much detail. Agree that AI is going to change things ... have to figure out what to do with all folks who will be out of a job .. and now to distribute wealth.

    The problems inherent in our current system - the worst of both extremes - has little to do with the collective consciousness or its evolution .. one might call an outcropping of the current system more of a de-evolution .. as censorship - cancel culture and propaganda are used to maintain control over a population where increased wealth inequality is causing distress.
     
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    I'm not really sure how the author of Revelation could have been more specific that Nero was the Beast he was referring to
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You not being sure of much does not mean Nero was the Beast - That said - nor would Nero being the Beast negate the depiction of the USA as the "Whore of Babylon" in prophecy.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While that may well be true -- normally the dogma is the more dangerous of the two.
     
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    Which comes from the Bible.
     
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    Ok, I'm disappointed. I thought this was going to be a thread about the condemnation of the Khamal Two, and it wasn't..

    Turns out, it was just another anxiety builder....
     
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    Yes, it really does. Revelation was with regards to CONTEMPORARY events, not meant to be a warning for people centuries later.
     
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    Not really .. The Trinity Dogma for example is not Biblical .. Martin Luthers "Free Pass" dogma "Sola Fide" is nothing Jesus ever said.
     
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    Told you .. The interpretation can apply to the future !
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    my apologies for pent up excitement but, the thread is partly a condemnation of such .. if read correctly.
     
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    That's because believers like to play fast and loose with the text. Hell, these are the same people who claim that the Immanuel in Isaiah is a reference to Jesus . . . which makes not sense to anyone who has actually read the verses.
     
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    It aint over til the fat lady sings (wait, is that 'fat shaming' now?). Recent archaeological discoveries suggest that neither is civilization something recent in human history, nor is this iteration of it the first. In the coming decades (should we still be looking) I think we'll find that humans have been here (at 'the end') before, perhaps multiple times. I don't subscribe to the notion that we are a pest to the earth or something to be irradicated, but we do share one similarity with the cockroaches- we're hard to get rid of. This civilization we've built is precarious, and without it most of us will die. But should it fall, there will still be many of us to build another. That's what we do. We build. We destroy. We build again.

    And by no means am I suggesting we should hit that reset button. The suffering and devastation will be of epic proportions. We got to the moon this time around, and we could get to mars too. It'd be a shame to start over again after getting so far. But start over again we will, if we must.

    Stay calm. Store food. Practice survival and self defense.
     
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    And I can cherry pick religious dogma from the Bible.
     
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    Thats nice Edna ... and many do .. What does this have to do with the USA being "THE WHORE" .. !@!
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    You brought up dogma....my comment was: It seems the Bible is a dangerous book for the vulnerable to read.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed and I agreed .. now what about "The WHORE" .. or are you too vulnerable to read ?
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    You are the vulnerable and the Bible has created much existential dread in you it seems.
     
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    LOL -- Really .. more perhaps than was not there already ? I am not so sure .. methinks tis you the one who lives in fear ..of the Bible .. and perhaps rightly so ..

    I don't see any excess vulnerability in myself .. but you are welcome to make the case .. and considering I already told you I don't actually believe in any of it .. will be a tough one for you methinks .. Perhaps even a "CRuciFied" position ... if ya like the allusion..

    cum now my dear .. and tell me about my vulneratilities to the fairy tales in the Bible .. how they are greater than to the fairy tales about Odysseus in the Illead.. lets explore who is the vulnerable one :) but for goodness sakes .. please make at least some attempt to address the topic "THE WHORE"

    Do you know who "The WHORE" is Edna .. and who is the purveyor of Sodomization .. Yours and Mine .. "Tell me True, Tell me Why, was Jesus Crucified ... was it for this that DADDY DIED" (Full impress me points if you can name the Artist of the tune of the album .. interestingly titled "The Final Cut" )

    Tell me about my vulnerability to "THE WHORE" Edna .. since you claim to know as much .. support your vacuous claim if you can ....and make sure to answer the questions along the way.. as these are educational .. will help in your journey of self realization !
     
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    Does anyone actually see the point of prophecies for the distant future? What significance would it have for the time of utterance. If some 'prophet' from god told you that the world would end in the year 2823 CE, would it concern you at all? So called 'prophecies' have no meaning except for the time of utterance or near future. They are simply the statements of facts as seen by astute readers of events. Isaiah - Jeremiah were well aware of events and the dangers of opposing overwhelming forces. Anyway, some OT 'Prophecies' were written at the time off events or after. The Book of Revelation is simply an adaptation of the Book of Revelation written much earlier by the Essenes. Both are a tirade in Hebrew picture language taken from the OT against the Romans. The Essenes use Mother Earth (Jesus is in the future) John uses Jesus. If you have a reference Bible you can refer between the OT and Johns Revelation.
     
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    By your snarky reply, apparently you do not believe in the Biblical conspiracy BS you wrote. My reply was for one who did. Carry on and have fun.
     
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    You are the snarky one .. right from the outset .. now trying to tar me with your failings .. and then run from the playground calling names.

    You keep making claims about what I believe and so on .. You come in crying "Your Vulnerable" .. and when asked to support this position you run and hide in the corner..

    Now you cry that I wrote some kind of Biblical Conspiracy ..in which I do not believe .. What Biblical Conspiracy are you referring to ? This is mindless nonsense without stating what it is you are talking about .. I don't see any "Conspiracy" Have ye not a voice ? Speak your complaint coherently rather than running around calling names .. making unsupported nonsense claims.
     
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    First I must apologize, your comment about the Bible being a book of fairy tales was apparently sarcasm which doesn’t translate well in print. I should have known you were sincere. You know, people have been claiming the “end is nigh” for over a thousand years They were wrong and you are right. People with a conspiracy theory are notoriously difficult to dissuade and I won’t waste my time, but my comment was more about those who take up a conspiracy. The vulnerable to conspiracy theory. Do they lack skepticism, are gullible, overly ideological? I don’t know. I’ll research what psychologists have found and get back to you if you are interested.
     

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