They hunted and killed a baby elephant!

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    557 Well-Known Member

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    Yes and I debunked it.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    would you say the same for the men that allow and profit off that cruelty?
     
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    Your article from huffpost is an opinion of somebody, with nothing to back it up.
    My article has tons of graphs, %, the numbers.... the works to FOUND that opinion

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/10/trophy-hunting-killing-saving-animals/
    That reads:
    40 percent of Tanzania’s designated hunting areas have been emptied of game animals during recent decades.

    In the Selous Game Reserve ecosystem, a prized trophy hunting destination, aerial surveys estimate the elephant population at some 15,000, down from perhaps 50,000 as recently as 2009.



    Them white middle age men massacring and emptying the African countryside hunt the biggest animals of a species. While with the idea of the survival of the fittest,... means they are killing the fittest animals while emptying the continent.
     
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    It still means that your argument of "it's legal, hence it's okay" is a retarded argument,... since I mentioned something else that is legal and it's obviously not okay. I don't understand how you could have missed my point by THAT much. lol
     
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    If you want to shoot an elephant and pay a wildlife park hundreds of thousands for the privledge I'm all for it. There are issues with corruption but I agree in principle.

    I agree that trophy hunting is not for everyone and is likely to get a lot of people miffed. Meh.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why did the Tanzania's government allow that to happen as they profited off it?
     
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    I disproved the conservation idea. Those governments are totally corrupt and them people are dirt poor.
    I put up 2 sources on that.

    read post 129. Them hunting grounds are emptied, and the mount of elephants is decreasing exceptionally sharply in those designated killing fields.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    do you hold the same outrage towards the African nations that allow and profit off these trophy hunts?
     
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    That they are now killing off the smaller elephants indicates that there is virtually nothing left already.
     
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    Read post 129. It's factually incorrect that this trophy hunting has a plus to it.
    The parks are massacred empty. The money is gone due to corruption that everybody knows that's there.
     
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    Hunting in Tanzania

    Tanzania is a hunter's paradise
    One of the best places in Africa to hunt
    http://www.safarinjema.com/african-hunting-safari-trips/hunting-tanzania/

    Classic Hunting Safaris in Tanzania - Africa's Finest Hunting Destination
    http://www.rungwasafaris.com/

    between 7 to 13 thousand dollars of the price of these hunts go to Tanzania government for permeants and fees

    you want to stop African trophy hunting go after the African nations that allow and profit off them
     
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    Does it look like I'm the Tanzanian government? How about you go call them if you want to know that.
     
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    The countries are dirt poor. White middle aged American men are just exploiting this.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its telling you are exclusively going after the hunters but yet to condemn the African nations that promote and profit of these trophy hunts
     
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    So its excusable to promote and profit off of what you consider cruel and immoral as long as you are poor?

    so just stop with you Fuax Outrage
    this isn't about the immoral and cruel practice of trophy hunting otherwise you would be condemning the African nations that promote and profit off them
    this is just another excuse for you to bash the rich white man
     
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    I know exactly what I linked and why. I’ve repeatedly tried to demonstrate the absurdity of your position by being absurd myself but it has all been for naught. I gotta go plant marigolds.
     
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    So what.
    It costs 7000 bucks for 12 to 14 days
    https://www.goway.com/trip/africa-and-middle-east/east-africa-odyssey/
    https://familyadventures.com/trips/perfect-family-safari/

    That makes killing big game something that Tanzania doesn't profit on.
     
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    It is what it is.
    My sources contain numbers and graphs to logically conclude something.
    Your source is just the opinion that's not backed up with anything.

    You just like to read what you like to read,
    without a care if it's founded on facts or fiction
     
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    Them white middle aged men pull the trigger to empty the reservations.
    While I would like the idea that there is still some biodiversity to view a 100 years in the future.
     
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    Then take the matter up with the government that instituted and allowed trophy hunting to be legal, rather than the individuals that are actually engaged in the act of hunting.
     
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    Nothing was disproved on the part of yourself. An opinion piece supporting the position of yourself was merely presented.

    What relevance does such have with the discussion of legal trophy hunts?
     
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    And the government allowed and profited off it happening
    but no condemnation for them
    you just want to bash the rich white man
     
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    You link articles that outright say trophy hunting has been successful in places to prove to me it isn’t. Read your links.

    Again, I linked opinion pieces from paragons of liberal media for a reason. It’s going over your head.
     
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    So what is being stated on the part of yourself, is the foreign government is absolutely guiltless in this particular matter?
     

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