This One Thing Shows How Deeply Washington Is Broken

We have 273 embassies in over 170 countries around the world. It would not be difficult to establish immigration offices in those embassies.

And by the way we have 223 uscis offices in the US and AROUND THE WORLD with 19,000 employees. Think we could cover handling applications for citizenship/asylum In any region of the world with a bit of reassigning?

And by the way, did you know immigration services are 97%funded by user fees?

 

Much better than what? We need to expand our labor force if we are to maintain our preeminent economic position in the world.

The Borders are not "open" have you ever driven to Mexico and back? We need to be helpful to the people trying to find peace and freedom. You have goals but no real suggestions to achieve them.

Better at keeping them out and making their lives even more miserable? Or, better at helping them?

 

And how would these people get to them? The only man that could walk on water was crucified.

 

That isn’t the case, either side.

 

Now you're just being obtuse.
"These people" would get to one of our embassies the same way they get to our borders now.
Only, you know, a much shorter and less dangerous trek. Here's a fun exercise for you.
Pretend you're a Venezuelan and you want to seek asylum.
Under current rules how far do you have to travel and what's the process when you get here?
Under my plan how far to a US embassy?

 

I'm not being obtuse. Closest Embassy is in Panama.

Where are thousands of people going to stay? What will the people of Panama say, do they get a say? Would they even allow it? How are the ones that are "accepted" going to get to U.S.? What's to stop the rejects from coming north anyway?

I still think setting up Ellis Island receiving centers along our boarder is a good idea.

 

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Most of those illegals did NOT walk across the border.
Most have over stayed visa's.
Due to not enough resources to work through the immigrants coming into USA.

Learn to use the quote functions. properly @Shutcie

 

Still contained border security.
Why doesn't the GOP want Ukraine to remain a free country. Don't answer, it's a thread derail.

 

Each of your questions has already been posed in connection with the invasion sponsored by brandon;
Where are thousands of people going to stay?

New York's answer was to kick out the vets​

What will the people of Panama America say, do they get a say?

Thanks to brandons travel service, no American had much say about it, did they? That is, until Abbott et al retaliated and sent ILLEGAL MIGRANTS to NYC. Then we heard a lot about it, didn't we?​

Would they even allow it?

Well, we do, but yeah, having people come to apply at our embassy isn't a huge imposition, even if they do hang out for whatever time it takes to get an answer. Better than the hoards marching through the country to get to our border, don't you think?​

How are the ones that are "accepted" going to get to U.S.?

How do they get here now? Do you think a plane ticket from, say, Panama, is cheaper and faster than a months long trek from Panama? To say nothing of paying the coyotes to guide them across the desert.

And while we're on the topic, anyone not able to buy a plane ticket from Panama ($300 on United, Managua, Nicaragua to El Paso Texas) or wherever probably doesn't have the means to support themselves when they get here.
We might not even think they would make good citizens and for darn sure, we shouldn't have to support them while they get here and get settled in. Remember that we're looking for labor, and for enhancements to our society with immigration. We are not running a home for people who can't survive in their native country. At least, not to the extent you seem to be advocating. Not to the extent that brandon has created. (Free laundry?? Really New York??)
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What's to stop the rejects from coming north anyway?

At present the incentive is that once you get across the border all you have to do is wait. Free housing, free food, free medical care, free laundry even. Eventually you can count on some politician to push through an amnesty program and you'll get your citizenship, but even if that doesn't happen, it will take decades for you to be tracked down and deported. And if you marry and/or have kids it becomes all but impossible to deport you.
The LEGAL immigration process circumvented.

That is the incentive now.

Under my plan coming to America "anyway" wouldn't make sense. Go to one of our offices, apply, and in a few weeks or maybe months you'll know if you have a hope of becoming a citizen. If you do, wonderful, buy a plane ticket or a boat ticket or whatever and come on in. If you don't you can go onto your plan B.

Coming anyway would accomplish nothing. If you tried to apply for immigration or asylum all you'd get is deported and prevented from applying again for 5 years.
Part of my plan includes putting real teeth into the E Verifile program; every job applicant goes through E Verifile. Violators face stiff penalties. The protection employers have is the ability to demonstrate that they have faithfully used E Verifile. Applicants for jobs have no protection from the penalties.
So, no job. No hope of citizenship.
Or, apply at an overseas office and save yourself the trip on a whim.

Oh, and
Nicaragua to Panama? 800 miles
Nicaragua to El Paso? 2,440 miles

Which trip would you rather make, to see if you could be an American citizen?​

 

The second part of my plan is to bond visas. If you come here on an education visa, your college or university bonds your visa, and cooperates with ICE when you no longer meet the requirements of the VISA. If you drop out, graduate, whatever, it's their obligation to see that you leave, and if not, to notify ICE and cooperate.
Same with medical visas.
Same with work visas.
We have a whole bail bond industry of that is very capable of tracking down bail jumpers and bringing them to court. That same industry would happily round up VISA bond jumpers and deliver them to ICE for deportation.
Even if we had to pay the bounty, it would be worth it.

Also, once the overseas offices are set up there is no incentive to overstay a visa. It would not be a path to anything but deportation. Better to go home, apply at the closest immigration office, then come back legally.

 

Why didn't Brandon make the border bill separate from the foreign aid bills?
He knew his border bill was a bunch of pork, and in reality would have made the problem worse.
Did you even read the bill?
Money for "enhanced" application processing?
No money for deportation expense?
Really. We are not that dumb, us Americans.

 

Too long
Don't care
Didn't read

 

Have a nice day then

 

No, it doesn't. I see a disadvantage in it for debtors, especially long term debtors like our federal government. For everyone else it is a good thing.

 

We have a pretty long period of artificial monetary expansion going now. We have had it since the 1920's. When do you think the deflation will occur? The answer is whever the government decides to reduce the money supply. It won't do that during my lifetime. That's for sure.

 

Sorry both parties borrow and tax. How do you defend the point you made above?

 

Plans mean nothing without resources of money and people.

Tell the R's to open up the money to fix issues.

 

Biden isn't part of the Senate.
How did you not know that?

 

Don't go into debt if that's a problem for someone.

Debt has been around since leaving the gold standard. So far, the plus's outweigh the minus's.

 

So, 100 yrs of expansion isn't good enough?
How many recessions/depressions were there prior to 1920?

 

Because Dems always want to raise taxes.

 

Seven.

 

Ridiculous. There is nothing positive about government debt.