Those whiny, sniveling, lazy, commie, socialist LIBERALS!!!!

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  1. Cybred

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    And socialism.
     
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    Based on your quote below it seems you’re implying they did those things. I know I know you’ll make some other ridiculous excuse. Enjoy.
     
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    Shutcie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Having a law is one thing. Enforcing it is another. Enforcing it fairly and uniformly is yet another. It seems we are good at passing laws, not so good at enforcing them, and totally fail at enforcing them uniformly and fairly.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your characterization/insinuation/implication of it did not happen. The right's 'defund the FBI' did happen.
    No, it isn't, because the constitution won't allow it and dems support the constitution. Moreover, in order for 'Joe' to be left without guns to defend his family, all guns would have to be banned, and, since that was your argument, 'all guns' is your argument, which is false.
    Overall, yes, they are.
    Your claim said 'ban all drilling'. No dem ever said that. So, your claim is wrong.
    I'm only going by what you said. Either qualify your statement if you meant something different, or don't post.
    I support anti-hate speech laws, is that what you meant? WKB, you are sloppy in your writing, FOCUS.
    You just said 'I can thank democrats for having met only 3 trans people in my life and so it's not a big problem'.

    that's essentially what I said, you told me to thank dems for it.

    Again, think about what you are saying, and FOCUS, say what precisely you mean, because that one didn't make sense.
    That's not what I meant, sure, biologically, there are two sexes, but, in fact, there is a third, called 'intersex' which is an anomaly of nature.

    I meant insofar as transfemales competing in female sports, let science figure out a way to make the competition fair. If it means Trans females competing in their own category, then so be it. I'll go with their recommendations, but there has to be a way so that competition is fair. Currently, it appears that it isn't, and I do get the conservative's gripe about it.

    But, my point is that the right tries to blow up this issue far out of proportion to it's reality. That is where my beef with the right is.
    Please do not make sh*t up as you just did.

    Please do not put words in my mouth.
     
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  5. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    The FBI wasn't defunded. Several Democrat cities defended their police departments and when they did, crime skyrocketed.

    The party that wants to violate the 2nd Amendment supports the Constitution? That's a ****ing hoot!

    Do you know how much plastic there is in an electric car?

    I never said "all". Stop putting words into MY mouth.

    Ahh! The inevitable personal attack, why admitting you support banning free speech.

     
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  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    the point was that a number of repubs wanted to defund the fbi
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...fbi-shut-it-down-gop/70432238007/?form=MG0AV3
    No dem 'defunded the police', 83% of cities and counties increased police funding by at least 2% from 2019 to 2022

    Moreover, the relationship between police funding and crime rates is complex. While some cities that reduced police budgets saw increases in certain types of crime, others did not. Additionally, many factors contribute to crime rates, including economic conditions, social services, and community programs.

    Therefore, both your claims are simplistic, and therefore false and/or misleading
    I'm tired of correcting your erroneous claims, and you'll have to prove it.
    I factored in the manufacturing process in my statement. Despite 'plastic' and the overall manufacturing process, they are a 'net' cleaner.
    You said "Joe will not have a way to defend himself without guns'.

    The ONLY way he can be 'without guns'' is to ban ALL guns.

    Your claim requires a ban. therefore, that is your IMPLICATION.
    Wrong. Prove it.
     
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    They aren't willing to talk seriously when it comes to trans people. Ever.
     
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    are you against police unions?
     
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    Yeah, it happened...

    https://sanfranciscodsa.com/mayor-l...-defunding-of-san-franciscos-law-enforcement/

    Electric cars will never offset the carbon footprint that's created to build them. I fact, the carbon footprint to build an EV is larger than the carbon footprint to build an ICE vehicle.
     
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    I'm against any government employee union.
     
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    And what have liberals done for us lately.

    Flooded US with illegal aliens.
    Foisted DEI on US
    Groomed school children for perverts
     
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    I am against unions which hinder getting the job done.
     
  13. FreshAir

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    so was that a yes or a no?
     
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    Generally, the law enforcement unions do not interfere with their law enforcement duties. As long as they do not interfere, I have no problem.
     
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    they make it hard to fire bad officers
     
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    They also defend against bad charges against the officers.
     
  17. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you support Unions... they give power to the employees

    the right doesn't support At-will employment

    without Unions the employer has all the power
     
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    Thats silly.
     
  19. Shutcie

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    Shooter was a cop and a police union member.
    The union was a non issue until I arrested the mayor's son for burglary. The mayor leaned on the chief, who leaned on the Capt. Who leaned on the Lt. Who leaned on my Sgt. Who leaned on me to drop the charges. I declined.

    So the Sgt. Found a hundred ways to make my life hell: 3 day suspension for "conduct unbecoming" ( I skipped into briefing at end of shift in uniform"). Another 3 days for "poor uniform maintence", endless report rewrites and so forth.

    The union took the grievances to the city. Fail. Finally when the union suggested my only recourse was to talk the DA into dropping charges I tossed my badge in the captains face and walked out.
    Screw em.
     
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    The great Thom Hartmann was the first to introduce me to that essay, it must be 25 years ago. I can't help wondering if it at least partially responsible for the creation of the dishonest "deep state" narrative that attempts to demonize government and all the good it has done to create a civil society.
     
  21. Patricio Da Silva

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    Your claim, 'Democrats defunded the police" is not accurate.

    Your link is about San Francisco and Mayor London Breed's specific decisions, not some nationwide Democratic agenda. Let’s not confuse one city’s policies with what Democrats as a whole are doing. In fact, what Breed did wasn’t even ‘defunding’ in the sense of cutting police to the bone—it was a reallocation of $120 million to address deep-rooted community needs. That’s reinvestment, not defunding.

    And here’s the kicker: none of the Democratic-led cities didn’t even defund their police departments. Take a look at the data—many actually increased their police budgets over the past few years. Even President Biden, the leader of the Democratic Party, has been crystal clear: he’s all about funding the police, just with accountability and reform attached.

    So saying ‘Democrats defunded the police’ based on this one article, noting that what was done did not equal you claim, is like saying every Republican wants to ban books because of what a few states are doing. It’s just not accurate, and it oversimplifies a much more complex issue.
    That's just wrong.

    Although you're right insofar as building an electric car, especially the battery, produces a larger carbon footprint than making a gas car. but that’s only part of the story, EVs don’t burn fossil fuels while driving, and their lifetime emissions are far lower than an ICE vehicle. Studies show EVs offset their higher production emissions within just a couple of years of use, and from then on, they’re dramatically cleaner. Plus, as the grid shifts to renewables, the gap only grows. So no, the larger production footprint doesn’t mean EVs can’t offset it -- they already do, and then some.

    Remember, i said that EV cars are 'net' cleaner, overall, meaning ALL factors considered, which you are not considering.

    https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/advice/what-is-the-carbon-footprint-of-electric-vehicles
    https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/how-much-co2-emitted-manufacturing-batteries
    https://connect.electrumcharging.co...-of-electric-vehicles-benefits-and-challenges
    https://lithiumharvest.com/knowledg...-busted-clearing-the-air-on-electric-vehicles
    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/e...an-gasoline-powered-cars-over-their-lifetimes
    https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths
     
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    No, it's defunding.
     
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    Semantics.

    This is a lithium mine... Screenshot_20241228-141859-823.png

    Tell us how EV's leave a small footprint?
     
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    which republicans are planing to do a lot of I hear
     
  25. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Bamboozled? The only time you can bamboozle someone is if you are convincing someone of something that is false.

    So......

    I asked Copilot to 'verify, or falsify each claim of fact', (each, plainly restated without the rhetorical flourish of the meme)

    So, your claim of being 'bamboozled by the meme's demagoguery' is categorically false.
     
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