Time to Force Vaccinations for All

cochise?

You use the words "die" and "kill" alot without showing where people are dying in masses.

 

Any post where you state that people shouldn't be vaccinated.

 

Part of taking care of my health is to not let crazy people kill me directly or indirectly

 

Isolate, wear a mask, do all of the necessary precautions that you feel necessary but whether or not people vaccine and/or god forbid are forcibly vaccinated, we all have to live in this blue orb together.

 

Not totalitarianism, that involves the state controlling everything, like Chinese legalism, "If it's not mandated it's forbidden".
Forcing vaccines is an authoritarian measure. It's one thing in an overall schedule of governance

 

We can mandate vaccinations, but we cannot force.

Mandating gives a choice, such as 'get the shot, or work somewhere else, homeschool, etc', but force?

That cannot be done because you are forcing someone to inject something in their body they do not want.

Think about the orwellian aspects of that statement? Where does it stop, once it starts? Who owns your body? You? Or the State?

There are what, some 17 vaccines, and if we force one, they can force others, and where does it stop?

Am I going to let the state force 17 injections in my arm of aluminum and formaldehyde? I don't think so.

I'll gladly get shot for a disease that poses a pandemic threat, but the odds of my getting meningitis are so remote, I just don't feel the
need to get the shot. Flu shots are so ineffective for 70 year olds ( so admits the CDC ) plus the fact I haven't had the flu in 40 years, I see
no compelling need to get the shot. But, Covid, there is a logic, and statistically proven, a good reason for me to take it. So I got it gladly.

Per democratic principles, there is only one way to get the population to vaccinate, by education, education, education, and persuasion.

Ridicule, if it is necessary, but force? That is a slippery slope I don't want to travel down on the hill of democracy.

I can be sympathetic to your view, but I cannot be sympathetic to tyranny, which is what your suggestion is.

But, the good news is that the Covid mRNA shots will save your life. Be thankful for that.

Granted, the Constitution is not a suicide pact, but for democracy, tyranny is.

 

Sounds like you are agoraphobic. Yes nobody else's problem but for us that you find the world to scary.

 

Does anybody really make the case that people shouldn't be vaccinated?

If you want to get 15 vaccines knock yourself out I don't care.

I don't need a vaccine for COVID-19

 

we have been assured that they will falsify vaccination documents, so we can not be assured that they will not stay out of crowds where they are not welcome and are not wanted. if they continue to refuse the vaccine, refuse to mask, refuse to quarantine or distance, what can be done?

perhaps using those abandoned wal mart s as quarantine sites is not a bad idea. do we have enough cult deprogrammers to staff the old wal marts?

 

Good points, (though I don't agree with you on meningitis. Where I live we lose about 2 college students every year to meningitis. Their parents are the saddest people I've ever seen and it's totally avoidable)

I'm just so extremely SICK of these people who are basically dying AND placing the rest of us at risk JUST to show what good Trumpers they are.

 

Show me those....

 

You need to quit denying science there is no evidence that because you're vaccinated you can't transmit the virus.

In fact I believe it's the CDC that says that you can still have the virus and spread it even after you've been vaccinated.

I don't know who told you vaccines with magical spells that make you incapable of transmitting a virus but you need to quit listening to them.

 

You mean to tell me you didn't run around and tell everyone they shouldn't be vaccinated? I mean you'd be the first person I've ever heard of doing that, even considering I've met anti-vaxx type people legitimate anti-vaxx type people they don't even do that.

But you know how it is any unconformity with whatever somebody thinks is antagonistic

 

Here you are pushing a political agenda, claiming those who dont want the vaccine are "Trumpers' when the reality is, people from every different side under the sun, can and do choose not to be injected with an experimental, rushed vaccine of which you can seek ZERO compensation for injury.

Do you lose the love you have for open borders and illegals when they dont take it?

You dont get to dictate to the rest of us, you are not king of the universe....nothing you can do about that.

 

Considering I have been vaccinated myself that would seem irresponsible to tell others what to do.

 

He has purveyed much disinformation in this thread.

 

In the US, the annual deaths due to meningitis is about 500, that's 1.33 deaths in 100,000 in the population. The odds are dying are extremely remote. Now, I'm not against the meningitis vax, if someone feels the need to get it, or perhaps it is prone in their family tree, but it is not in mine, and I don't see the need. If I got the flu every flu season, I would get the meningitis vax because meningitis affects one out of one thousand persons afflicted with the flu, but I haven't gotten the flu in 40 years, and and the last flu vax I received was in the Navy in 1985.

I'm just as mad as you are at the anti-vaxxers, most of whom are Trumpers. But a few hard lefties are there, too, though no where near as many.

 

See how EASY it is for the Hitlers, Stalins, Maos, Pol Pots....they and their ilk always have an army of willing little wannabes just itching to lord it over other people. I fear not the virus, THESE people I FEAR!!!

 

I don't think anybody's telling other people not to get vaccinated seems like a conspiracy theory to think that they are.

 

Perhaps the most asinine statement I've seen here. Who exactly are these people who are basically dying? And if 'YOU' or those you call 'the rest of us' are already vaccinated....then what is this risk you speak of? Perhaps you're still not quite sure of the effectiveness of having taken the Trump vaccine. Is that it?

 

I'm not going to get the covid vaccine for the same reason you're not going to get them meningitis vaccine.

If you want to be mad at me and call me an anti-vaxxer and stomp your little feet and throw a temper tantrum be my guest it's not going to convince me to get the vaccine.

I don't need it, I already had covid it was mild. In a few years of watching you people that rushed out and got the vaccine and should covid become endemic then I'll consider it.

 

So? Then why badger people who have not been vaccinated?

 

Because they can take lots of people with them

 

Even if they are vaccinated? What's the point of getting the vaccine than?

 

My dry bones still await your evidence...