Time to Get Real About Ukraine

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    https://dailyreckoning.com/time-to-get-real-about-ukraine/
    While Western politicians pretend that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are more or less safe at the front and “Putin lost the war both strategically, operationally and tactically” (the phrase of the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US Army, General Mark Milley), Western experts say in the press quite differently.
    The publication 19FortyFive (USA) regretfully recalls that the Armed Forces of Ukraine could not take a single city that the Russian Armed Forces decided to defend to the last. The Armed Forces of Ukraine were able to enter only where the Russian Armed Forces left on their own (Kherson, Kharkov and Chernihiv regions). But the Armed Forces of Ukraine could not defend a single city, which the Russian Armed Forces decided to take . Each such city was declared impregnable by the Kiev regime, and each time the Armed Forces of Ukraine left from there - Severodonetsk, Lisichansk, Mariupol, Popasnaya, Soledar. The same story - with Artyomovsk.
    The article "The Horrifying Endgame in Ukraine" says - "Ukraine lost a large number of people and ammunition during these useless and thoughtless attacks."
    Sun Tzu taught that the assault on fortified cities is the most negative type of hostilities, and the commander who constantly storms cities is the most mediocre. A talented warrior will find a way to take the city in a different, less costly way. It is necessary to storm the city only if there are no other means for its mastery. Moltke said the same thing.
    Today we see this in the performance of the Russian army. She goes to storm settlements as a last resort, preferring to bypass and block them. And if he storms, he relies not on speed, but on the low cost of such an assault. The head of the musical PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin said clearly about the assault on Artyomovsk - our task is not to take the city itself as such, but to exhaust and bleed the Ukrainian troops here. And so it happens.
    By the way, James Rickards estimates the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at 500,000, apparently including the wounded and missing, since Ukraine’s losses in killed (officially recognized) are 257,000 (such data were reported to the Pentagon by the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny during a visit to the United States) .
    James Rickards considers statements by Ukrainian and some Western crazy media about the extermination of more than 100 thousand Russian soldiers at the front as a myth, emphasizing that the British BBC was able to count in open sources (reports about funerals, obituaries, posthumous awards) less than 20 thousand Russian losses.
    And in addition.
    For example, columnist Sean Ring writes that the US and the EU have little of what Russia needs. As a rule, these are high-quality consumer goods. But Russia has something that the West cannot do without - gas, oil, gold, diamonds, cobalt, vanadium, copper, nickel, platinum, tungsten, lead...
    Russia is in second place in the world in the export of vanadium and cobalt, in sixth place in the export of gold, and in fourth place in the export of tungsten. Russia provides the world market with 12% of platinum and 3.5% of copper. Complete isolation of the Russian economy is therefore impossible. A military victory over Russia is also impossible, Ring is sure. He estimates the losses of the Russian Armed Forces and the Armed Forces of Ukraine in direct clashes 1:8 in favor of the Russians.
    After the revelations of Western diplomacy, we already know that the US and EU began working on sanctions against Russia two years before the Russian Special Military Operation, we know that the supply of weapons to the Ukrainian fascists also began long before the Russian Special Military Operation. We know that for 8 years the Ukrainian fascists shelled the peaceful cities of Donbass, and since January 2022, the Ukrainian artillery has intensified the shelling of Donbass, preparing for the invasion ... and received a kick from the Russian army, bent over and now snarls from a reclining position. Ukraine is not a victim, Ukraine is an aggressor. And the NATO countries are the same aggressor. But as always.
     
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    Are we really back to this guy? Its like the Putinbots have some sort of rotation. We must be due another one from convicted paedophile Scott Ritter soon, followed shortly no doubt by an article from pathological anti-Semite Paul Craig Roberts (the favourite of a particular PF member with a fondness for Hitler).

    Just to refresh the memory, this same poster started a thread in early December where Mr Rickards claimed Russia was winning the war. For anyone who is interested, post two on that thread has a comprehensive account of Mr Rickards' claims about the price of gold (spoiler alert: he regularly predicts insanely high prices that have NEVER been obtained).

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/sorry-russias-winning-the-war.606153/

    These were his predictions in early December:

    I'll give mr Rickards this, his predictive skills are consistent. He is as right about this as he is about the price of gold.

    For some reason the OP is providing an article that was published at the start of january, which makes it even less relevant that it would otherwise be. I can't be bothered reading it, but I'm betting its predictions are going to look pretty sad.

    Sort of makes you wonder why someone would consistently post this rubbish? It isn't for the quality of the analysis, that is for sure.
     
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    I agree with the author's contention that the counter-offensives to retake Kharkiv and Kherson, as well as hold onto encircled towns and cities that were obviously doomed, may have come at too high a cost for Ukraine to pay in exchange for merely convincing the public in NATO countries to support their War Effort. It was evident that the Russians had failed to accumulate enough troops to launch an invasion of a country with a population of 45 million that sported a NATO-backed army. Until Russia could mobilize enough troops to steamroll over the AFU with large, coordinated infantry attacks supported by artillery bombardment and armored vehicles, Ukraine was locked into a war of attrition that required them to preserve enough manpower and resources to fight for years. Now that Russia has finally created a system for mobilizing, training, and dispatching troops, the numerical advantage that Ukraine once had seems to be tilting in favor of the Kremlin. Ukraine no longer has enough manpower to stop the Russians.

    The Ukraine Zealots can BS all they want about these huge death tolls that happened by mowing down Russians attacking in Human Wave assaults like 'Enemy at the Gates.' Ukraine has lost hundreds of thousands of men that they cannot afford to lose. Their death toll may be equal or greater than the Russian and Ukrainian Separatists (LPR, DPR) combined. About 90% of the deaths sustained by Wagner in Soledar was among the convicts that seem to be the only group that attacked in a human wave. Zelensky continues to sending more men to Bakhmut from areas that need them like Zaporzhizhia and Lyman. I'm calling it. Ukraine is about to get wrecked.
     
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    No, Russia is always the bad guy and NATO are always the heroes. And this will get plenty real once our Challengers/Leopards/Abrams arrive, oh it will be plenty real indeed. Ask Saddam. Oh that's right, you can't because he got hung. Maybe the same fate will befall Putin?
     
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    Ahahaha... I like your tantrum.:рофлол::рофлол::рофлол:
     
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    Time is the most honest person. We'll all see soon.
     
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    Russia also provides a large percentage of nuclear fuel to Western Europe and the U.S as well as to many other countries who use nuclear power.
     
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    Yes. And this too.
     
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    Things are about to get real for Russia.

    They just had the largest one month budget deficit since the Yeltsin years.
     
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    During the time of the state criminal and alcoholic Yeltsin, Russia had virtually no gold reserves, but huge international debts.
    Today, Russia has a large gold reserve, and a small external debt (compared to the US, China, Japan or Britain ... , Russian debt is microscopic).
    By the way, Russia's budget deficit was planned initially, but taking into account Russia's super-conservative incomes.
    In fact, today the Russians have a huge trade surplus. Even the Russian tanker fleet has increased its income by five times. That is, the budget deficit laid down by the Russian government has something to cover.
    So don't worry about the Russians. They are fine.
     
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    Ruble has also lost about 10% of its value over the last month.

    Russia is not going to be fine. It's a shame because most of the Russian people deserve better, but Putin doesn't care about any of them beyond their ability to provide with him bodies to throw at his ambition.
     
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    Russia's newly mobilized troops are merely untrained conscript cannon fodder. Meanwhile, Ukraine continues to draw on volunteers waiting their turn to be inducted, as the Ukraine army has become a confident, well-trained veteran force.
     
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    No tantrum, just pointing out how poor your sources are. You can't even defend them, though I see some Putin supporters have turned up to support them. Very predictable.
     
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    Got something to back that up? Russia produces a very small % of the world's uranium and isn't in the top 10 exporters. There is LOTS of uranium out there. It is easier to replace than gas and required in MUCH smaller quantities. Try again.
     
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    A year from now we could see that each side has lost another 100,000 lives, far more of Ukraine has been destroyed, and the battle lines are fairly close to where they are today.

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    Or, it could escalate in an unpredictable manner.
     
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    You need to work on keeping your translation software from breaking your emojis :)
     
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    ruZZia’s #1 export is disinformation
     
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    Why should we trust your predictions here more than your previous failed predictions thread?
     
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    So what?
     
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    If Russians want to get real then they need to surrender and leave Ukraine. That is the real ending here and nothing else is even possible.
     
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    I don't support blowing another $100B, another 200,000 dead, and the more complete destruction of Ukraine for essentially nothing, why do you?
     
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    How's that mop up going? Oh, it's not?
     
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    He is using false numbers. Russia has over 100,000 KIA and Ukraine has about 1/3rd of that.
     
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