To those that feel we should not support Trump

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  1. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary had more votes because of the Latino population which is very big in California and New York and even Texas. Had Trump not pushed his wall or the possibility of deportation of illegal immigrants most of them would not have voted against him and several even stated even though they voted for Hillary they did not like her.

    Trump won 30 of the 50 popular votes.
    More than 2,000 counties compared to less than 500 for Hillary.
    220 democratic strongholds fell that Obama had in 2012.
    More than 10 million democrats chose not to even vote because they were disgusted with Hillary.
    Michigan has not voted for a Republican since 1988. Pueblo County, Colorado had not voted for a Republican in 45 years. These are just some examples.
    Registered Democrats in Pueblo County, Colorado outnumber registered Republicans by more then 10,000 people yet Trump took majority vote there.
    Colorado only went to Hillary due to a surge in the Latino population there.
    New Hampshire had about a 1,000 vote difference between the two. Minnesota and Maine were not supposed to be battleground states. Hillary barely claimed them.
    Almost every battleground state fell to Trump in overwhelming numbers due to devastated economies and job losses.
    In Florida Trump campaigned for Latino's and claimed 52% of the vote there for them. He never campaigned in California. It was already a blue state.
    Hillary was so bad she had Obama and kinda famous people campaign for her and it did not even help her.
    ICE was against her, many in the FBI admitted they could not support her because they believed her to be a criminal and many generals supported Trump.

    The only reason Trump lost out on a lot of votes was due to a biased fake media, the wall and deportation of illegal immigrants, creepy videos and false accusations by many women. Plus the fact that so many people loved Obama even though he was not that great and he tried to convince them Trump was racist. A lie can turn people from voting for someone.

    Trump's twitter rants and the fact that he payed students he may have defrauded came after the election. Bill Clinton paid a women he raped around 9 hundred thousand dollars to shut up. It's on the internet. So you can't blame Trump for doing it and then turn around and support Hillary and her husband.

    So that leaves you with what? His Twitter rants? not a good enough reason to not vote for him. Russia? I have seen no proof they helped him and Hillary had a big donation from Saudi Arabia so why not cry about that? Wikileaks exposes evil truths about Hillary. Would you rather those truths stay hidden? Would that make you feel better for voting for Hillary? I have seen no evidence Wikileaks was in any way connected with Russia. How about his nuclear threat? Oh wait that went away when he became president.

    Maybe his creepy videos? Hmmm so my choices were don't vote for Trump because of a creepy video and the fact he called a woman fat or don't vote for Hillary because she was told to turn over emails to the FBI and 3 weeks later wiped them out of existence to save her criminal crooked ass. Who do you think I was not going to vote for? Hillary of course.

    Maybe it was the fact she thought it was ok to murder a baby when it only had less than 10 days before it was born? Maybe because she dissed God on stage with Jay Z or because she called my family who planned on voting for Trump (I was still undecided) deplorable for doing so. So if we don't support the Democratic party we are deplorable? I thought it was poor and uneducated?

    There is many reasons not to vote for Hillary including the lies about Trump being racist when she may be racist herself, the Benghazi screw up, her support of Obamacare when her husband said it was crazy and needed fixed, the fact she attacked women who came forward about Bill Clinton raping them and my favorite one is where she drove a man to kill himself and she never once publicly apologized and even removed the evidence as the FBI stated. He own security said she was harsh on them. It's not the first time evidence has disappeared. Bill Clinton did it while he was president in the 90's.

    So what has Trump done that is so bad we should not support him? He has saved many jobs, helped the stock market, is stopping possible terrorists from entering the country and building a wall to slow down the flow of illegal immigrants and drugs on our southern border. He has also said he would rebuild our military and maybe remove NAFTA. Maybe all of you sore losers should give him a chance like some of us (myself included) gave to Obama. Don't be like those rich greedy tv stars and try and tell everyone who to vote for while doing nothing to help the parts of the country that are economically suffering.

    He has barely been president. Let's give the man a chance and stop saying he lost the popular vote. He won 30 states for the EC. He campaigned for the EC and not for the most votes. That's why you Democrats failed on every level. Trump campaigned for the battleground states where people are trying to figure out how to put food on their plates. Trump connected with many American's and he did so with far less money than Hillary and it was his own money and not that of other countries unlike Hillary.

    Hillary campaigned for her own selfish lazy ass and lost.

    Trump is so far doing a good job minus the twitter rants and a few golfing trips which may or may not be for work. I like that his wife does the "lord's prayer". That's great.

    I support Trump 100% and see no reason to stop supporting him. You can give it your best shot but unless you have something big for me you won't be changing my mind.
     
  2. katzgar

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    Reality is Trump lost the popular vote by millions of volts
     
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    Shocking!
     
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    So Hillary scored a touchdown at the World Series. So what?
     
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    Perhaps that is why the opposition is in such shock! (millions of volts.....get it?) So the reality is you seem opposed to the system by which we govern and run our elections which both parties consented to in the last election. Would you prefer Sweden?
     
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    I know that a Trumpeizda 's love for his Trump is unshakableso Ibwill not try to dusuade you since your mind is entrenched. I do not support the man in office over the office of the presidency. I support my country and Insupport the actions of a president if those actions are are in line with the defense of our country, our Constitution, our citizens (legal immigrants to limited degree). I need to have trust in a president. This guy who today occupied the Oval Office has shown me that he is not trustable, he is hiding something about his connection with Russia and Russia is our enemy so he is supporting an enemy nation. You a Trumpeizda obviously do not care that your POTUS is very likely committing something near treason.

    But you President told you as a candidate that he could walk out on 5th avenue is NY and end someone's life with extremist prejudice you woukd still crawl on your knees to kiss hus butt. Hell I bet that if Trump *******ed someone you cared forv you would chant " make America great, thank you Mr. President than you".
     
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    The reality is that Trump is the president, and Hillary is not.
     
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    True, especially when you consider the polls were completely reversed.
     
  9. katzgar

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    your post states the obvious. good job.
     
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    ...because of the Russian involvement. (Finished your sentence for you.)
     
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    I try. Some find it refreshing.
     
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    After editing you still came up with this? WTF
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    Reality is that within our presidential election system, there are 50 popular votes to be considered, and Trump won 30 of the 50.

    Exactly. Still trying to figure out what that has to do with the price of tea in China...

    There you go. Come 2020, we'll still be hearing "But Hillary won the popular vote!" News flash: California doesn't get to dictate who the President of the United States will be.

    Yeah, because those mean Russian hackers released emails which showed Hillary Clinton and the DNC weren't playing fair. Bad, bad Russians...
     
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    Nice obfuscation but Trump is still not popular with Americans
     
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    What is obscure, unclear, or unintelligible about what I said?

    Let me be clear here. Many people seem to want to be spoon fed their opinions by a mainstream media who is hostile to President Trump. Any surprise, then, that Trump is unpopular with Americans? (Or, more to the point, that the mainstream media continues to insist on painting Trump as unpopular with Americans? Remember, we're talking about the same media who said he didn't have a chance against Madam Secretary...).
     
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    Your statistics are meaningless. Our elections are not based on acreage. The fact that Jerrymandering reached new heights in favor of the GOP in 2010 shows - there were millions more votes cast for democratic representatives in total than for GOP representatives, yet there are more GOP representatives because of jerrymandering.

    The majority of states that went for Trump are welfare states - they suck money from the federal government.

    Yes, the so-called president won the electoral college.

    The fact remains that a LARGE MAJORITY of Americans voted against the empty celebrity with the inferiority complex that forces him to tweet like a catty high school cheerleader when it is pointed out that HE LOST the popular vote.

    Trump. So-called president. Lost the vote BIG TIME. Sad.
     
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    Your post is trying to suggest that the popular vote was not correct what you seem to be also making a point in your post is that Trump is incapable of getting his message across over the noise of the media
     
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    Reality is that his 156 IQ enabled him to with the election despite losing the popularity contest by 3 million votes. I guess that's why the popular vote isn't referenced anywhere in the Constitution. We got the smart candidate.
     
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    You are making up his IQ nobody has any idea what it actually is your post is a lie
     
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    I could care less about changing your mind.

    What is ridiculous is that you completely ignored all that he says and says he wants to do.

    If you can't see the problem then you are part of the problem.

    Torture beyond even waterboarding, killing innocent people because of their family relations, the use of nuclear weapons, inciting violence and offering to pay for it, for starters. I have a very long list.
     
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    Millions of Democrats have been ordered to oppose Trump by the corporate media and press propaganda outlets of the elite super rich who want to keep sucking out American dollars for themselves via foreign sweatshops, want to keep a massive glut of labor and to block unionization in the USA by millions of low skilled immigrant labor, and want to keep making the trillions in profits of world policing, wars and the Cold War.

    Having no will power, no capability of independent thought, and being totally submissive in nature their little minions not only do what they are told, but also think what they are told to think like kindergarteners towards their teacher or a member of a religious cult. The corporate propaganda MSM, falsely calling themselves the press, is their gods they must submit to, believe and follow without question.
     
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    Who's Jerry and why isn't he concerned that illegals influence the number of representatives and, therefore, the number of electors. Mexicans and Central Americans would have picked our President if Hillary had won. Thankfully she was too dumb to figure out that a handful of large sanctuary states cannot on their own elect a President.
     
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    Get in touch with reality some time.
     
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    To know what many partisan Democrats on this forum are going to post today all you have to do is watch CNN or MSNBC. They are parrots.
     

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