Too fat to fight: Pentagon grapples with obesity epidemic

Way to go all balistic. Anger issues?
No where, but in you rmind apparently was fed gov't mentioned.

 

I can imagine thermonuclear bombs detonated from outer space on the global stratosphere.

 

well you were telling some truth in there whether intentional or not. People below the poverty line smoke. That's a high dollar habit.

No, I have simple ability to digest knowledge. Poor people here in the states are fat. Meaning there is an abundance of calorie they ingest. So being obese is not a problem of being poor it's a problem of poor self control or lousy attitude. If you think it is go give a fat person below the poverty line $10,000 and see how much weight they lose.

I think you are just trying to make excuses.

 

Everybody has habits not just the poor, I'm not sorry that the working class can't be the perfect little drones that you can imagine of them. I roll my own cigarettes, literally only costs me $35.00 a month. It was a joke man and you're trying to read too much into things. No, I think your whole thing is hating the poor viewing them as subhuman with that arrogance of superiority you probably like to envision for yourself.

If I had $10,000.00 in money I would utilize it for school and educational purposes.

Yeah, you guys always like to chalk up things to lousy attitudes or self control, it's always the poor people's fault for everything, right?

 

I thought we were talking about the poor not the working class. Is that the same thing to you?

I digress, my argument was that poverty is the opposite of having too many calories.

I gave it up completely 10 years ago, I spend nothing a month.

I know you were joking, I read it the first time you typed it. It lead to another point. One you seem to misunderstand.

I think this is a strawman.

Would it somehow make an obese person less obese?

Lol you guys... It's called figuring it out. Do you think anybody who isn't poor was just given money by a magical fairy?

I was below the poverty line, I stopped blaming my problems on others and worked my way out of it. You can to, but not with a shity attitude.

I don't blame people for their misfortune, I do however think they can recover from it. All you have to do is keep trying.

 

Well considering a majority of the working class is poor where the middle class has been decimated, yes.

My argument is that the government in the United States learned a long time ago that food is an excellent way of controlling people.

I imagine myself quitting some point just not now.

If a person has more money they have more financial access to healthier eating or foods. Ever tried surviving on $200.00 or less on food per month these days?


I am figuring things out concerning education and social mobility but I am not going to pretend either that poverty isn't something that is institutional, systemic, or enforced.

Many do keep trying myself included but nobody ever focuses on that where it is much more fun lumping them altogether as sub humans that don't deserve to breathe air.

 

If fat recruits must be accepted they should go to a shock incarceration program like the 1960's correctional training programs before being accepted into regular basic training.

 

Let us also be honest here, there's really not many people that want to join the military anymore getting shot or killed for banks, corporations, arms dealers, oil companies, and Israel.

If they try to initiate world war III even with a national military draft it's not going to work this time, seventeen years of constant war with no end in sight, this insanity has to end or stop at some point.

 

Middle class doesn't work?

Only people that wish to be controlled.

What's wrong with right now? I don't imagine you quitting. There will always be an excuse not to.

The cheapest foods in the grocery store are fresh produce, eggs, and milk. Bulk rolled oats are also very cheap.

The idea that more healthful food is more expensive is absurd.

That's just an excuse.

No, I have a magical leprechaun that grants wishes.

Lol

Well, it's reinforced by despair. Yes it's a battle to get out of it. I didn't really have a magical leprechaun that grants wishes. I simply hated having nothing and found out what to do about it.

Actually people love hearing about people overcoming adversity, it's one of the most common themes in our story telling. Dating back to...I can't even think of it.

If you are working to better yourself, that's great, keep trying. I have some suggestions on things to persue that can become very lucrative with the right amount of work. If you are interested.

 

Sure the middle class does work, there's just not much of a middle class left anymore with everything outsourced.

I smoke cigarettes for stress relieving, it helps me not be homicidal, get verbally aggressive with people, and go off in the mental deep end. If it only costs me $35.00 a month, I view it as a win-win concerning personal investment. I always tell myself when the world stops pissing all over me then I'll quit smoking.

There's more to control then what you wish for or don't, there are many methods or variations of control but nobody is entirely immune.

Seriously? Have you not noticed food prices these days? Do you know how hard it is to shop groceries on fifty dollars a week? [In some cases much less on a bad week.]

Well if you find that leprechaun tell him I would like to find a pot of gold bullion.

Yes, there's always a fight against despair which often enough is challenging especially for the mentally weak where one needs all the mental fortitude they can muster however poverty is systemic in the United States and there are a lot of individuals that capitalize on it.

Your suggestions are of course always welcomed.

 

No it's that the middle class is called wealthy.

There will always be stress. So there will always be that reason not to quit.

Yeah I justified it that way when I smoked to. The only way to successfully quit was to stop justifying it.

that is blaming the world. It's not in your control, so you don't ever have to stop. That's the rationale of a true addict.

Yes, everybody struggles, unless you have wealthy parents that help you out. I did not.

If it worked that way, is let you borrow him for six months.

Mental cajones are something everybody can muster, you just have to cowboy up.

I got a great one for you. First look up non destructive testing(NDT). Find a school that teaches it and see about getting a small student loan. 3k tops. Take some classes. And apply for an ASNT scholarship. They'll refund your loan and if you are willing to travel you can make as much money as you want.

But this is work, it's hard work. You have to want to do a good job. But it's money, lots of money if you want it.

 

Well if you're at the bottom like I am everybody seems a lot more relatively wealthy including the upper middle class. [Is there even a lower middle class in the United States anymore?]

I've quit smoking before, I can again. When I'm ready, I'll simply be ready.

Both of my parents are dead where I'm definitely cut off on my own, true story. I have no other family, none worth mentioning anyways.

I've been struggling for seventeen years, I could practically write an entire book on struggle or survival.

I'm actually trying to get my HVAC certification.

 

Yeah, I get that. I've been to rock bottom, and fell to rock bottom again and I'm getting out of it right now.

All I'm saying is don't make excuses all the way up until your first heart attack or your diagnoses of emphysema.

You will quit when you're ready if you really want to. You have to really want to it's been 10 years since I've had a cigarette once in a while, I still want one. That will never go away completely but there's no way in hell I would ever start again.

I am sorry for your loss, life is never quite the same once someone has gone.

I would like money on people wanting to read it. These types of stories are inspiring and we love to hear about these things people succeeding Against All Odds. You might even get best seller out of it.

That's a good field to be in, you can make a lot of money and have a lot of success. But if for whatever reason that falls apart for you or you can't go into that field let me know.

So you said you we're struggling for about 17 years I assume that started when you were 18 but I may be wrong imagine that put you around 25 to 35 years old? I'm 36. I don't think I'm much older than you if I am at all.

You like me I like my brother might have gotten some really bad advice when you were in school. I got the same advice I tried it it didn't work.

 

I am 31, next year I will be 32.

 

Well friend, I know the struggles are exhausting and the rewards often seem out of reach, but the trip through is well worth it.

Got to sleep now ttyl

 

Been nice talking with you, we both know the struggle.

 

I am agreeing with ArmySoldier against your denials that poverty in America is mostly self induced

 

The biggest myth of those with power, it's true that some of it is self induced but a majority is not.

 

You can't be serious. More like "Let's starve students" school food program.

There may have been good intentions but I don't think she really knew what she was doing.

 

Any able bodied person of average intelligence that does a few basic fundimental things such as staying sober, off drugs, gets a high school diploma, and avoids a police record will not remain poor for very long

 

Try editing that post up a bit.

Also, none of your post makes any sense within a destroyed economy, the standard rules no longer apply.

 

Untrue, as you don't have to subjugate oneself to a progressive lifestyle to earn a living.

 

I be self employed and don't have to follow the rules of the corporate world to be a tool...I can smoke a joint at lunch if I so want to...

 

It is not destroyed yet, you just have to learn how to manipulate it.

 

My Papa always told me that if you have good health you are a wealthy man and you can work for someone and earn them a living or you can work for yourself and earn yourself a living...And, get a trade...