Total Fixation on COVID

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  1. AARguy

    AARguy Well-Known Member

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    I live in the midwest. We are aware of COVID here but have much the same attitude about it as we do about automobile injuries, boating injuries or workplace injuries. Sometimes people even die. But we would no more make ourselves slaves to the disease than we would to AAA. We love see our kids in school. Schools, by the way where active PTA's ensure that racist instruction like CRT never finds its way into any classroom.

    We have celebrations, family gatherings, and special events. If folks want to wear a mask, they can. If they don't, they don't have to. Vaccination is personal choice here. And we love to shop, go out to eat, swim at the beach ad all the rest without being encumbered by tyrannical "mandates". We are free here.

    And, oddly enough, we aren't all dying from the China Virus. Indeed, few are. I haven't seen a dead body on the sidewalk yet!
     
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    around 3000 died on 9-11, yet we had a 20 year war over it, change our airline processes for safety, ect....

    how many died from Covid?

    if we are overreacting to covid, we realy really really really really overreacted to 9-11

    how many died from CRT, seems a bit of an overreaction as well
     
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    9-11 was an act of violence... a terrorist MURDERED 3,000 Americans. To compare that to deaths from a virus is absolutely ridiculous. So when your neighbor (God forbid) stabs and kills your dad its the same as your mom (God forbid) dying from stroke? ... those are the same sort of events to you? Really?

    CRT teaches racism to children. Nothing dies but freedom. And obviously freedom doesn't count to some people. Do you teach racism to your children? Really? I don't want my kids to get such indoctrination.
     
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    Yes, surely that means no one died.

    Its the good old "if I didn't see it, it didn't happen" way of thinking.
     
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    I live in Texas and we are 26th in the nation for China Virus deaths. We have no mandates and we are purely average in mortality among states with and without mandates.
     
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    Trump said he was a wartime President against an invisible enemy, one that killed more than died on 9-11

    the fact is, society changed over 3000 dying on 9-11 and as many many many more died over covid, we can expect some changes

    CRT is not taught to children
     
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    No, you have lost 75 000 citizens, - same as California, although California population is much larger than TX. Texas alone lost 25 times more Americans to Covid than the US lost in 9-11.

    Hardly any State has mandates at this point, but like Florida, Texas was locked down hard last year. And don't tell me it wasn't locked down, because I provided you proof of it some time ago since you are totally clueless of what is happening in your own State.
     
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    So you view dying from a virus the same as being slaughtered by terrorists? Ok... I'm not sure how to respond to that. So run with it. Do you think Enlistments are up due to the China Virus? Where should we go to fight it? Can we nail those little viruses with rifles, artillery, and aircraft?

    Or perhaps there is no similarity and its a case of "apples and space shuttles"?
     
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    While I'm not arguing that the two events being compared here are the same, it should be pointed out that the root cause of WHY these two events are considered terrible is the preventable loss of innocent life.

    If 4k or so folks can die and we change a whole bunch of stuff across multiple different facets of daily American life, but 800k folks can die and we shrug and pride ourselves on resisting the safety protocols, are we valuing the human lives involved?

    Of course not. It's relativistic.
     
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    "Hardly any state has mandates at this point"? You mean like NY and CA where you have to show proof of vaccination to buy groceries? You mean like that?

    Totals are meaningless due to differences in populations. According to medical sources (https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/us-coronavirus-deaths-by-state-july-1.html) UPDATED 14 Dec 2021 (yesterday).

    Texas is low in the death rate by state... 43rd in fact with .20 COVID deaths per 100,000 population..

    California with all their tyrannical China Virus mandates does beat Texas, but only slightly at 47th with .17 deaths per 100,000 population.

    Michigan stands at number one, by the way at 1.2. NY is 34th at .29 and Alaska is last... lowest at .05.

    DC is lower than all the states, by the way, at .04.

    Governor Abbott removed ALL COVID restrictions (masks, separations, vaccine, vax passports, etc.) on 2 March 2021 (https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-lifts-mask-mandate-opens-texas-100-percent).
    Everything was opened and free of restrictions from schools to stores to restaurants to beaches... everything... as of that date.
     
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    I'm sorry, it is NOT just about loss of life. If someone drives by and shoots my son dead I will work with the authorities to nail the guy/gal.

    But death from disease is different. People have died from measles, chicken pox, and many other diseases. Did we shut down businesses? Cancel family gatherings? Keep our kids home from school? Restrict travel?

    No we did not.

    Heck, small pox was a lot more devastating than the China Virus ever will be. When I was child I got a small pox shot and that was it. I went to school, continued to have fun, went out with my family... life went on as normal. I still have the scar on my arm that the small pox shot left.
     
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    Why the red herring?
     
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    Morality rate for people under 75 is extremely low.
     
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    After 1 full year. Thank you for finally admitting it.

    You can argue that 75 000 dead Texans means nothing, but that's more than the US lost in Vietnam in 10 years of fighting.

    On the bright side, there may be lots of new infections due to the new variant, but it is very mild and most people won't even notice it, but it gives them immunity anyway. Delta was a killer, but the new one might be the solution.
     
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    Yeah... 21 March was almost a year ago. Reference any calendar.
     
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    Its a full year from the beginning of the pandemic.

    Sorry if you didn't get the meaning.

    They lost almost as man was California, so TX is competing for the #1 spot. There is only few hundred difference.
     
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    so you suggest endless fight wearing useless masks and injecting questionable vaccines
    common cold virus will not go anywhere any time soon, it will not hide in Tora Bora mountains as either.
    What is a point to give up our freedoms indefinitely?
    We have done with that stupid virus, there is no remedy, and you have to recognize that fact. The same way we live with road accidents we have to live with that COVID virus.
     
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    nope, I expect that while in a pandemic, things would change for a bit, I do not expect we will be doing this for 20 years

    I believe after the holiday bump, this will be behind us
     
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    Oh Jesus Christ dude give it a rest already.

    Trump in every single post of yours
     
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    can't stand the role Trump played in covid compared to Biden, want to censor the truth? sad!

    I get it thought, makes it hard to attack Biden, when Trump has done worse
     
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    Trump lives in your head it could be a thread on cake recipes and you would bring Trump into it.

    This thread has nothing to do with Trump.

    And if you think biden's doing a fine job of handling it I have a bridge for sale
     
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    nothing to do with Biden either, yet you bring him up

    both Trump and Biden have their hands in it though
     
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    Me too, specifically Wisconsin.

    Sounds similar to the attitude that I see all around me (outside of the greater Madison area).

    With the exception of the tyrants in Dane County (Madison area), we are free here too. But even in Dane County, there are a few sensible people who don't bother with the mandated chin diapers. Across most of the rest of the State, the vast majority of people don't bother with the damn things anymore and are sick of the COVID fear porn and live their lives per normal.

    Same here. Looks no different around me than it did prior to this "pandemic" that has "taken 800K+ lives"...
     
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