Triplets All Became Autistic Just Hours After Receiving Pneumococcal Vaccine

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a rather powerful interview that certainly has me thinking about this particular vaccine. I will probably be sending this video off to people who I know who might want to give this to their child.




    https://www.brighteon.com/ff5f1030-c258-4f16-9822-e0e73639bfa7


    Triplets All Became Autistic Just Hours After Receiving Pneumococcal Vaccine

    Apparently this particular vaccine was pulled from the market after this event for at least some time but the attitude around this case gives us an idea of how entrenched certain views are.
     
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    Vaccines do not cause Autism.

    More importantly, what a ludicrous claim these people are making - that autism can just turn on in a matter of hours.
     
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    If it's in support of the tinfoil theory that vaccines cause autism, I won't be reading it.

    These people are mistaking correlation for causation. It just happens that vaccines are routinely given at around the same age that autism is usually detected. It's all about timing. There is no link.

    More importantly, we still don't know whether ASD is an organic, or a psychiatric issue. As in so many 'medical' conditions these days - we've reached a point in science where we can detect changes/differences in the brain, but we have absolutely no idea what caused those changes/differences. There is a strong argument for ASD in fact being what 20thC researchers called (unfortunately) 'refridgerator mother syndrome', and what is still sometimes referred to as 'orphan syndrome'. When the symptoms of orphan syndrome are indistinguishable from autism, there seems little purpose in refusing to accept that, for no better reason than to protect the dignity of parents. It doesn't serve the impacted kids, that's for sure.
     
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    Decades ago I read a book about autism [entitled "Autism"] that said it was first diagnosed in Britain in the late 1940s and at that time most autistic children were found to have highly educated parents. Highly educated parents in the late 1940s would also have been more likely to vaccinate their children.


    Childhood Vaccination and the NHS

    By the end of 1942, a third of all children under 15 years of age in England and Wales, and a half of all in Scotland had been protected against diphtheria. While this was a major step in widening the availability of vaccination against certain childhood diseases, it was not until the passing of the National Health Service Acts of 1946-8, which established the NHS, that a major sea change in vaccination provision was secured.

    https://peopleshistorynhs.org/encyclopaedia/childhood-vaccination-and-the-nhs/

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    According to this video vaccines are not the only cause of autism. It also talks about recovery by changing to a natural diet toward the end.

    Autism made in the U.S.A Vaccines, Heavy Metals, and Toxins are causing the epidemic of autism



    If three babies all become autistic right after having gotten vaccinated, anyone who doesn't get suspicious is not objective.


    Here's some more stuff.

    Review Of Critical Vaccine Studies 400 Important Scientific Papers Summarized 2
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...-78&sk=&cvid=FB49EB8C5E3C4C55874C1862EC0032A3

    https://vaccine-injury.info/about.cfm

    https://humansarefree.com/2019/06/f...inst-vaccines-sure-ill-find-you-hundreds.html
    https://www.organiclifestylemagazin...es-hear-from-those-who-have-done-the-research

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Thimerosal - Let The Science Speak, Part 1
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...4520A5A85C3EEB421C61452&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

    Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. on Thimerosal - Let The Science Speak, Part 2
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...F9A11F04EB9DF3E34E72F9A11F04EB9D&&FORM=VDRVRV
     
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    Here's another correlation: Highly educated parents often have less time for their kids. Some would say less interest, also ... focused as they are upon their careers etc.

    But wait, there's more! There's also a correlation between women who have elective c-sections and don't breastfeed, and ASD. And elective c-sections and bottle feeding are associated with wealth. No surprise at all that kids diagnosed with ASD are much more likely to have been born by c-section and formula fed.
     
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    The life experiences of many parents and children contradict your claim.

    The mother of the triplets is an intelligent and informed woman. I find her story compelling.
     
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    Life experiences are not science.

    Humans are notoriously biased when it comes to observation.
     
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    Life experiences are very much a part of science. That's why they pay test subjects to participate in drug experiments and other tests that measure life experiences as effected by drugs and medical devices.

    LOL, they didn't have to pay a penny for the test subjects with the graphene injections.
     
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    Those are not quantitative studies, they're qualitative. About as useful as sociology.

    Human observation, again, is notoriously subjective. You would not risk your health to 'feelings', when it comes to surgery .. so why do it with this? This is medical science, not astrology.
     
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    If a mother decides her triplets contracted "autism" within hours of a vaccine, her conclusion about her "life experience" is very likely erroneous.

    Its like being on a sidewalk and stepping on a crack. If a person's mother back breaks a few hours later, blaming the concrete contractor is not a "valid life experience" of linking mom's back breaking to careless attention to where to walk.
     
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    Here's some stuff you should check out.

    Nancy Banks on Vaccines


    https://vaccine-injury.info/about.cfm
     
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    Why? On your say so? Have you ever looked at her credentials?

    Anti-vaccine doctors – naming names and listing lists (skepticalraptor.com)
    1. Nancy Banks – Anti-Semitic HIV/AIDS denialist and holocaust denier who has no background in infectious diseases, has never done research, and only made self-published books.
    Denying AIDS and other oddities: Conspiracy Theories, AIDS Denialism, Holocaust Denial, and Dr. Nancy Banks

    She has no credibility, yet you suck it all up.
     
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    Ok. Now tell us what you think of this info.
    https://vaccine-injury.info/about.cfm
     
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    It's true. I'm talking on several threads and I just didn't notice it. Anyway, I think that post of yours hurts your credibility. You're trying to play down the damage that vaccines do.
     
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    Well, if this woman had anything rather than the same 30 yo arguments that even the earlier anti-vax have discredited, it might be interesting, even if it wrong too, but its not.

    This woman's willingness to encourage to get her patients and the public to risk REAL illness and death is a evil and cruel joke!

    But her diatribe was the same rhetoric to get her prospective patients into her expensive and fairly worthless nostrums monthly stuff. (The first 1 or 2 grams of vitamins and MSM is useful, the rest is expensive pee!)

    Or, even if this charlatan wants someone to load up the buckets of vitamins and exotic preparations, stop by a free or low cost vaccine clinic and get your self and your children to get COVID vaccine and any other available vaccines, because even without ANY vaccines, the kids will have same rate of autism anyway and these children and parents will be much healthier and longer lives.

    In my youth, the crazy and hyperactive and stared off at space and learned little, "odd" kids were went to menial tasks or put in permanent institution most were beat and raped into submission or death because no one cared.

    And there are no fewer autism then as in now.
     
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    What makes you think the autism wasn't inherited genetically?

    I'm not sure about "vaccines", because they're not all the same - isn't this article about a specific vaccine?
     
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    The only first-hand info I have is an acquaintance of mine has an autistic son and he says he seemed normal until he got vaccinated.

    There seem to be a lot of studies that say there are more cases now.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ury-and-autism.579730/page-13#post-1072340410
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...cury-and-autism.579730/page-9#post-1072332762
    http://wellnessgospel.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/autism-b.jpg
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ury-and-autism.579730/page-13#post-1072339238
     
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    I really do not care at all what you "think". It comes from profound ignorance. When somebody like you suggests others have low credibility it is the ultimate in irony.

    No. YOU are joining in with the idiots who are playing it up.

    Correlation and causation between vaccines and adverse effects (skepticalraptor.com)
     
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    Vaccine manufacturer executives that got jobs at the CDC say there's no link. Trust the experts.
     
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    Basically the "elephant in the room" principle......
    if it had merely been genetic then the probability of it happening so soon after that particular vaccine would be astonishingly unlikely.
     

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