True fascism in America.

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  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/p...fter-he-criticized-aoc-on-twitter/ar-BB1fvttt

    Recently AOC participated in a symposium on middle east peace between Israel and the Palestinians. Something she knows nothing about and her comments proved it as she blurted out the typical trite generalities and bromides. Some criticism(mild) of her came from a fellow libocrat. A podcaster named Ryan Wentz who offered a comment in a tweet.

    This was his tweet about AOC's expertise on mid east peace.

    For tweeting that mild criticism he was paid a visit from 2 plain plain clothes California state officers who warned him to watch what he says about a sitting congresswoman.

    Apparently AOC(Dangerous child idiot) complained to capitol police who with the help of Twitter located this guy and got the California state police to threaten him.

    If this does not send shivers up the spine of any, any freedom loving American something is wrong! She and those who cooperated with her need to be condemned on the floor of the US congress. This is a fascist authoritarian assault on free speech!
     
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    There is one person in America who is defending civil liberties. His name is Tucker Carlson and he devotes about half his show every evening to that issue and how people in this country are trying to destroy them. The first 10 minutes of his show was devoted to AOC's assault on our liberty.



    Libotards called Trump a fascist and authoritarian but did Trump have police sent out to threaten his critics? Did he have Madonna and Johnny Depp threatened? One called for burning down the white house the other called for killing him. Ryan Wentz simply called AOC's opinions underwhelming.
     
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    The asshats that sent the gestapo need to be outed and prosecuted under ANY statutes that can be applied, PRONTO, PERIOD!!! This citizen needs to file lawsuits like a buzz saw!!!
     
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    This is very troubling. I've been amazed at how quickly this country has fallen into accepting this kind of intimidation. Even a dozen years ago, this would have been a major outrage, for both sides of the aisle. Now it's crickets from the left which support this, and the right has little voice. This story is never going to be on any Nightly News and most people will never hear of it.
     
  5. Starcastle

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    Any real liberal should be outraged. Are there any left out there? Jimmy Dore and a few others. Not many.
     
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    4 parties were involved in this attempt to attack the free speech rights of an American citizen.

    1. AOC: A member of congress should be a defender of our basic freedoms not trying to sic law enforcement after any critic of her.

    2. DC capitol police

    3. Twitter

    4. California state government and police.

    At any time in this process one of these parties could have put a stop on this. Just say I'm sorry but that is not a threat on the congresswoman so we are not acting. The tweet did not even involve a violation of Twitter's rules.

    No crime was committed. No laws were violated but because she was a member of the certain political party and because all of those involved are fascists with no regard for basic liberty this happened.
     
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    I see the quote from the tweet, can we see the tweet itself?
     
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    AOC denies it was her that called the police.
     
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    Bottom Line: the local cops are claiming the visit/warning was in relation to another tweet that junior was tagged in. When that tweet is revealed, we'll know who is telling the truth.

    As for Tucker Carlson: a useful idiot for Fox ratings from the fringe and rabid right wing peanut gallery. He'll spew any lie and dog whistle racist drivel necessary to keep his salary. https://www.politifact.com/personalities/tucker-carlson/

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/04/tucker-carlson-promotes-racist-replacement-theory

    And while AOC is far from perfect, neither she or the Dem party fit the definition of fascist. FYI for the Merriam-Webster dictionary:
    Definition of fascism


    1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
    2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial controlearly instances of army fascism and brutality— J. W. Aldridge
     
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    Of course she does. and Jack Dorsey pretends that twitter can ban a person with 80 million followers and he had nothing to do with it.

    It's called lying.
     
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    Tucker Carlson is barely right wing any longer. He is a populist who is constantly fighting against attacks on free speech and civil liberties. Good job of being ignorant.

    By the way the definition of fascism you provided is the current democrat party and your diaper hero Joe Biden.
    It is your party who is obsessed with race.

    What do you call Twitter and Facebook banning a sitting president of this country? Suppression! What do you call a corporate media pushing a 3 year lie about Russian collusion? The demand for mask mandates and shutdowns rather than simply encouraging masks and distancing?

    What we have is a total assault on individual liberty by a cabal of corporate media and the democrat party.
     
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    Note that according to libos they can allow foreign nationals to vote in our elections and cancel out the votes of Americans who were born here as long as those foreigners are not white.

    So do a poll of Ugandans and if a large majority will vote democrat just let them come here and vote?
     
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    The definition of authoritarianism according to Oxford dictionary.

    https://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=opera2&p=definition+of+authoritarian+ism

    That is the democrat party 2021. Mask mandates! Economic shutdowns! Suppression of speech! Millions of people have been banned or suppressed on Twitter, Facebook and youtube.

    Look at Facebook. An interview of the former president is not allowed. NY Post stories about BLM leaders getting rich were banned.

    That is fascist corporatism!
     
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    1. Do tell? What cost Carlson his pointy hood in your eyes? What specific mantra or talking point did he contradict? Inquiring minds want to know, because the crap I refer to is just an example of the RECENT rhetoric Carlson spews and supports...unless you can explain to the reading audience just how this latest "nationalist" baloney he spews isn't stepped in racist paranoia.

    2. Besides parroting titles, how about an example of each of the actions you accuse the Biden administration of. I don't want your generalized opinion, supposition or conjecture. If you can't provide documented valid facts (executive orders, signing statements, bill proposals), then don't waste everyone's time.

    3. FYI: I'm a registered Independent who didn't vote for Joe. But are you seriously going to try and push that stupid David Duke tactic of calling anyone who can logically and factually point to systemic racism and bigotry a "racists"?

    4. The right of an INDEPENDENT, PRIVATE CORPORATION TO ENFORCE IT RULES WITHOUT GOV'T INTERFERENCE. Something you self professed "federalists", constitutional experts, all swear you are about. Hmmm, seems so long as they do as like...otherwise, they're tools of the "lib'ral" gov't.

    5. Since you had the leadership of the majority Congressional party that was in control of those Senate Hearings on Trump and the Ukraine DECLARE PRIOR TO THE HEARINGS THAT THEY WOULD NOT RULE ANY FORM OF IMPEACHMENT, one can hardly justify any right wing vindication rhetoric.

    6. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't various states following their own mandates as to what's open and what's not? Mind you, initially the entire country was scared to death that Covid was the Andromeda Strain. So over-reactions and screw ups were sure to happen. Now, IMHO, it's sheer stubbornness and arrogance (with some serious profit motive) that's fueling this stuff...and a clown like Fauci isn't helping.

    7. You mean the same corporate media that sold us the BS to invade Iraq? Folk like you had no problem then.
     
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    Please document gov't sponsored "suppression of speech". Facebook has been doing that on it's own for a LONG time.
    Who banned a NY POST article about BLM profiteering? Proof please?

    When people were protesting against the Gulf War and all that contained, folk like you called them traitors and sought to punish them. Same with the invasion of Iraq.

    You do realize that masks and shutdowns started BEFORE Biden got into office, right? So Trump was/is a fascist by your decree? Interesting.
     
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    Proof of your wild assertions here. That means valid documentation, not your personal generalizations, vague references or supposition and conjecture. We'll wait.
     
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    Of course the reason you want millions of immigrants coming across our southern border is so they can vote some day and 65-70% of them will vote for your party.

    Do you want quotes? People like Biden or Beto saying we should just make all dreamers instant citizens. They serve a political purpose.
     
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    Democrats want government commissions to stop "misinformation" which to them are only things being said by the political opposition. Jonathan Turley has said that democrats want to suppress speech.

    https://www.breitbart.com/health/20...rats-want-chinas-restrictions-on-free-speech/

    Here is a poll in California in which 53% of democrats want restrictions on speech. Never democrat speech of course.

    https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Poll-CA-Democrats-want-to-restrict-free-speech-12196319.php

    As far as shutdowns and masks read my post. Trump had a 3 month shutdown while many democrat governors are still in shut down mode and never want to leave it. I was talking about mask mandates. That's Biden's obsession. Of course they don't apply to him just to us peons.

    As for Facebook they are 100% in bed with the democrat party.
     
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    For the record I think George H Bush was a horrible president. I have voted libertarian in 5 of the last 8 elections. So much for "folk like you".
     
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    It seems odd to me that you would castigate our illegal immigration problem, a problem to be sure, yet voted libertarian 5 times?

    I suppose you don't have to support all of a political parties platforms but don't libertarians support open borders?
     
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    Just as I thought....you couldn't meet a simple burden of proof. Instead you offer the reader the SOS in hopes of smoke screening your folly....your personal generalizations, vague references or supposition and conjecture. You fool no one but yourself.
     
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    1. You stated that the current administration is sponsoring suppresion of free speech. Instead, you give us some breitbart bilge about Proposals by Individual Dem congressional members and a trump defending "liberal" advocate. Here's a simple, straightforward dismantling of the credibility of the first link's subject: Incitement and the First Amendment – BillMoyers.com

    2. You stated that the current administration is sponsoring suppresion of free speech. Instead you give us a poll taken in one state of a limited number of the populations registered Democrats. That's not the same thing. Come back when you can produce back up to what you EXACTLY stated. Oh, and you may want to look up the civil laws regarding "libel" and "slander". Interesting reading in context to the 1st Amendment.
     
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    oh puh-leeze! Libertarians are just neo-conservatives who want to get laid, get high and discriminate against anyone they want to. So far, YOU haven't been able to supply anything other than your own supposition and conjecture with links to "facts" that DO NOT logically prove your initial contentions. Here's a pretty stark review as to why libertarians split initially on the Gulf war Why Did So Many Libertarians Support the War? - Econlib

    The Libertarian Civil Rights Paradox (forbes.com)
     
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    Is this the kind of hate speech democrats want to ban?

    https://news.yahoo.com/chris-cuomo-says-police-reform-184425505.html

    Chris Cuomo says police reform won't happen until white kids get killed.
    Whatever:blahblah: a neoconservative is. What is that?

    The simple point is that I have taken positions on these boards that are not conservative. I have been critical and distrustful of conservative Christians and religion in general.

    I'm in favor of legalizing weed. I'm against the death penalty and I'm very centrist on police shootings and immigration.

    I'm against war! It is one of the things I liked about Trump because he was the first republican in 2016 to openly say the Iraq war was a horrible mistake.

    Your democrat heroes including Biden supported the Iraq war!
     

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