Trump’s history-making hush-money trial begins ...(Mod Warning)

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  1. Dayton3

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    What if there is a fire?
     
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    In other words he never gets exposed/corrected where it matters, in a courtroom trial where he is the defendant's attorney.

    For a few years now his bully pulpit is right-wing media where the ignorant hosts just nod in agreement.
     
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    Actually there is that is a misinformed myth.

    He has threatened no one under the law.

    There are many TDSers too.
     
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    ok, you got me.....:lol:
     
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    Why are you being OBTUSE ?

    NO, he hasn't threatened anyone.....YET. Hence the gag order !!!!
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    What evidence are we missing exactly?
    Would yountake the work of a highly respected former US Attorney?

    How about this basic fact? What is the underlying felony Bragg is claiming?
     
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    So why is Bragg declaring him guilty of a federal crime?
     
  8. Nemesis

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    I refuse to engage in this discussion with you again. You have no idea what the order says, no idea what the underlying law is, and have no grasp of due process or the 1st amendment. Worse, you steadfastly refuse to learn about any of these matters. ​
     
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    Yep. It’s very easy for him to issue outlier opinions that unlearned Faux Snooze hosts gobble up uncritically, but not so easy to do so before a court or a jury when the court is giving them instructions based on the real law.
     
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    Yesterday Trump said he's going to testify in the hush money trial.
    Some history on how testifing worked out for him in the recent past.


    'Donald Trump testifies for less than 3 minutes in defamation trial and is rebuked by judge'
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-carroll-defamation-lawsuit-trial-0f2618e7fa839ace26de76e1a6ce274f


    Trump Assails Judge and Concedes a Role in Valuing His ...
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    The New York Times
    https://www.nytimes.com › trump-fraud-trial-testimony

    Nov 8, 2023 — The former president, who railed against New York's attorney general while testifying before a packed courtroom, denied he committed fraud ...
     
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    Thanks for your legal input.
     
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    The Orange Testicle is not going to testify.Period. It would be a massive mistake, and he’d **** his pants on cross.
     
  13. Izzy

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    Dershowitz is as transparent as Trump.

    'Alan Dershowitz Stuns Critics With A Delusional Trump Legal Take On Fox News'

    Wed, April 17, 2024 at 8:43 AM E


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/alan-dershowitz-stuns-critics-delusional-124319875.html
     
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    You have a lot of experience with that I take it?
     
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    You (my question)
    What felony is trump accused of in the hush money trial

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    "Former U.S. President Donald Trump is facing 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the first degree1. These charges are related to a 2016 hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels23. The indictment alleges that Trump repeatedly and fraudulently falsified New York business records to conceal crimes that hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election3.

    The indictment stems from a grand jury investigation into hush money paid before Trump was elected president3. It is alleged that between Feb. 14, 2017 and Dec. 5, 2017, Trump falsified records of invoices paid to Michael Cohen, his former lawyer3. In court documents, it is stated that the former president paid Cohen monthly for supposed legal services, but in reality, the payments were reimbursements for the alleged hush money3.

    In addition, it is alleged that the chairman and chief executive officer of American Media Inc., which owns and publishes the National Enquirer, made payments on Trump’s behalf to another woman who alleged sexual encounters with Trump, as well as to a doorman who claimed Trump had fathered a child out of wedlock3.

    This case marks the first time in history that a former U.S. president has been tried on criminal charges2. Trump has repeatedly denied wrongdoing related to the payments3. In court, he pleaded not guilty to all counts3.
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    You (my question)
    Has the statute of limitations run out on the 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the trump hush money trial?

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    "The statute of limitations for the crime of falsifying business records can vary depending on the jurisdiction and the degree of the offense. In New York, where the charges against former President Trump were filed, the statute of limitations for misdemeanors, which include falsifying business records in the second degree, is two years1. However, it becomes a felony if the person falsified business records with an intent to commit another crime OR to aid or conceal the commission of a crime2. The statute of limitations for such felony offenses is typically longer3.

    Given that the charges against Trump were filed in 20232, it’s unlikely that the statute of limitations has run out as of 2024. However, the exact determination would depend on the specific details of the case and the interpretation of the law by the courts. It’s always best to consult with a legal expert for the most accurate information. Please note that this information is based on what was available up to 2021, and there may have been changes or developments since then.
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    There you have it. Your two objections/questions addressed. 8)
     
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    Wow. He is being a mega moron. Gag orders are enforced routinely, especially when you have a situation like Trump’s, where he incites his idiot supporters to do the threatening and intimidating for him. We need to have fair trials, and sometimes the way to do that is to impose gag orders.
     
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    Why are you so upset? Is it because Trump’s incontinent?
     
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    WoW! Chris Stapeleton just showed us why he's a GREAT Musical Professional and we're not!!! He really winged it; wow!

    And Jimmy Kimmel show tRaitor tRump for the ass hat he is. :rolleyes:
     
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    Don't you ever tire of repeating the same unprovable rhetoric about people who don't support what you do?
     
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    Why should I (or you) care?
     
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    Because I worry about the old man crapping his pants in front of foreign dignitaries and diminishing our nation’s credibility before the world more than he has already. He’s incompetent already; do we need to add incontinent too?
     
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    I’ve already proven it. Perhaps you should read the court order that I posted the link to.

    Or do you already disagree with it even though you know nothing about it?
     
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    Why do you care about President Biden's stuttering?
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    Stuttering is a lot easier problem to explain than incontinence.
     
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    This is very funny and telling.
    Most NY'ers already know that Trump cheated on Ivana with Marla Maples.
    Though under oath Trump doesn't remember it that way and he also misidentified E J Carroll for wife Marla.


    12:34 p.m. ET, April 19, 2024
    Trump watching closely as potential jurors share opinions about him


    'Trump attorney Susan Necheles asked potential jurors if they are bothered by allegations that the former president has been unfaithful in his marriage.

    Trump leaned over and whispered to his lawyer Todd Blanche at the defense table as Necheles asked the line of questioning.

    Trump is watching the alternates' answers very closely as they share their opinions of him. He turned toward the jury box as they responded'.



    'Trump’s affair was huge tabloid news. Now it’s apparently news to him.'
    Trump claimed in a deposition that he couldn’t remember if he was seeing Marla Maples before his divorce. It would be quite a thing to forget.

    https://web.archive.org/web/2023050...05/06/trump-marla-maples-affair-jean-carroll/
     
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