Trump’s history-making hush-money trial begins ...(Mod Warning)

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  1. Izzy

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    Exhibit 35 & 36.
     
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    No. Just no.
     
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    Next up..
    Cohen.... a disbarred, serial perjurer will walk into a courtroom and asks to take an oath and try to convince the jury to put his former client in jail for following his own legal advice. This would be difficult even for a competent and ethical lawyer.
     
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    please show us with a copy and paste where Exhibit 35 & 36 do show incriminating evidence..
     
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    Actually the judge Merchan has an obligation to advice the jury NDAs are legal, catch and kills are legal... and the state has no jurisdiction over e federal election...
     
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  6. Izzy

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    Try reading them.
     
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    No, he doesn’t. Most of that is up to the defense and most of it is irrelevant. And the “jurisdiction “ issue has been dispensed with repeatedly, so we can safely ignore you raising it……..yet again.
     
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    You produce them.... no more silly games my liberal friend...

    please show us with a copy and paste where Exhibit 35 & 36 do show incriminating evidence..
     
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    Nope.... NDAs and catch and kill are legal and it is Merchan's responsibility that the prosecution does not mislead the jury in his trial....
     
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    You made the claim and I was nice enough to correct you with the document/evidence identification.
    I already fetched for you and once is enough.

    You:
    "Nothing has been brought out today that is incriminating at all..."
     
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    Back up your claim @Izzy
    please show us with a copy and paste where Exhibit 35 & 36 do show incriminating evidence..
     
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    There is no crime.
     
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    They can't name the crime because there is no crime.
     
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    Yet, Trump is leading in the polls. Looks like your narrative is false.
     
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    Adam Klasfeld https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1787544520202362948.html

    Just-released exhibits:

    These handwritten notations by jailed ex-Trump Org CFO Allen Weisselberg could be described as a visualization of the prosecution's theory of the case.

    Let's break it down.
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    First off:

    It's written on a bank statement for Michael Cohen's shell company Essential Consultants LLC, showing the transfer to Daniels' law firm.
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    Going from left to write on the handwritten notations: the math.

    Step One:

    * "$180,000 is "Grossed up to $360,000," then
    * "ADD: ADD'l Bonus 60,000"
    _______________________________

    $420,000"
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    Step Two:

    $420,000 breaks down into monthly payments of "$35,000," jotted down here.

    But wait, where did the $180,000 figure come from? Next notation.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Why do you rant on about NDAs? That is not the issue.
     
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    Read the indictment.
     
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    He disclosed it after he got caught lol a year late also
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/politics/trump-financial-disclosure.html
     
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    lol he perjured himself by telling congress the same lie trump was telling the voters
     
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    Read the ****ing indictment. It’s all laid out there.

    The jury will decide whether the prosecution has proven that the crime occurred, but the allegation is there.
     
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    Lots of ****ing allegations. All hat, no cattle. Bogus. Nothing but political hocus pocus.
     
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    Do you want the Cliff Notes version?

    Trump falsified business records in order to hide the purpose of the payment / source of funds, and in trying to hide those things he intended to do something that could have amounted to a separate crime.

    You may not like it, but under NY law that’s a felony.
     
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    You making this demand is what’s silly. Read it yourself.
     
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    Snip from Cohen's Feb.2019 testimony before the House Oversight Committee.

    Ms. Kelly". According to Federal prosecutors, executives at
    the company then, and I quote, ``agreed to reimburse Cohen by
    adding $130,000 and $50,000, grossing up that amount to
    $360,000 for tax purposes, and adding a $60,000 bonus such that
    Cohen would be paid $420,000 in total. Executives of the
    company decided to pay the $420,000 in monthly installments at
    $35,000 over the course of a year.'' Is that accurate?
    Mr. Cohen. That is accurate.
    Ms. Kelly. What was the purpose of grossing up the amount,
    essentially doubling what you had paid to Ms. Clifford and
    others?
    Mr. Cohen. Because if you pay $130,000 and you live in New
    York where you have a 50 percent tax bracket, in order to get
    you 130 back, you have to have 260. Otherwise, if he gave me
    back 130, I would only -- then I'd be out 65,000.
    Ms. Kelly. What was the purpose of spreading the
    reimbursements to you over the 12 monthly installments?
    Mr. Cohen. That was in order to hide what the payment was.
    I obviously wanted the money in one shot. I would have
    preferred it that way. But in order to be able to put it onto
    the books, Allen Weisselberg made the decision that it should
    be paid over the 12 months so that it would look like a
    retainer.
    Ms. Kelly. And did Mr. Trump know about this reimbursement
    method?
    Mr. Cohen. Oh, he knew about everything, yes.

    Ms. Kelly. Well, thank you, Mr. Cohen.
    So the President not only knew about the payments, he knew
    and helped to hide the payments and the reimbursements to you.
    Mr. Cohen. We discussed it. Everything had to go through
    Mr. Trump, and it had to be approved by Mr. Trump.

    Ms. Kelly. And now you're going to prison and he's----
    Mr. Cohen. And I'm going to prison, yes, ma'am.
     

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