Trump gets nothing from North Korea

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Trump has done noting. Where’s the wall ? Where’s the deal with the nukes ? Trumps presidency is one continuous infomercial. Name one thing he has done ?. The economy ? Bush lived his firsts four years under the success of the Clinton economy, then his took hold. How did that work out ? Republicans have had nine recessions, literally whenever they take office in modern times. Get ready for another.
     
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    Ha ha
    Not really.
    North Korea is just China’s crazy little brother. It’s China’s puppet and buffer Zone with the West. . Only China will decide what North Korea will do. People don’t remember history. Go to war with North Korea, and you go to war with China. That’s why NK has nukes. America is not going to war with China.
     
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    You also don’t concede something tangible and get nothing tangible in return even on the first meeting. It set a tone of capitulation where we give and Kim considers whether or not he would like to reciprocate.

    You understand that, right? This is not a normal business transaction. Kim is a totalitarian dictator who at least maintains a persona of literal godhood and megalomania. If he sees weakness in us he will never take us seriously. You get that, yes?

    Trump spent months antagonizing this guy and now at their first meeting he capitulates. That’s weakness. These talks should have been approached from the standpoint of “we are negotiating for a future in which NK can continue to exist” not “what can we offer you to stop developing nukes?”.

    As you conservatives were always so fond of banshee screeching at the top of your lungs, that approach didn’t work in Iran. Trump quashes the Iran deal unilaterally calling it bad, and then turns around and starts the same sort of diplomatic stance with NK and you all cheer like he’s an international politics superstar.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not aware how negotiations work eh? It’s not like we promised millions and access to our banking system for nothing in return.
     
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    Trump is being Trump. He wants to show everyone he’s smarter then a black man.
     
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    It’s about showing weakness. If you aren’t going to read my post don’t respond to it.
     
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    Who gave access to our banking system ?
     
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    Just bow to them. Shows strength.

    Ah, so never ever try to negotiate peace. Got it.
     
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    Obama and Iran.
     
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    You still haven’t read my post. Don’t respond until you read it. If your intent is to ignore my points and just be snarky then **** off.
     
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    North Korea will disarm when China disarms. China controls 90% of Korea’s trade. That pretty much sounds like NK is a province of China. Let’s get real. If anyone thinks that China is doing anything but exercising their version of the Monroe doctrine, they’re pretty naive.

    NK does NOT need nukes for its survival from anyone’s attack. I guess everyone forgot history and the Korean War. You attack NK, you attack China.
     
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    Explain. Where is the proof that OBama “gave” Iran US tax payer dollars and an account access to our banking system. Are you smelling glue ?
     
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    lol. TDS They literally just had the first successful peace negotiation meeting...and lefty b like...wheres the deal?
    Thus proving, they have no clue how these things work or how long it takes. Face it, youre not angry at what Trump isnt doing youre angry that what he is doing is working.
     
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    Well, you conservatives have ADD if they think the agreement was anything but a photo op to make two fat asteroid fools look like they knew what they are doing. Kim is a puppet of China and Trump is becoming one.
     
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    They would have to be converted. Google that up.
     
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    Yeah it is, with Lil Kim already shutting down a nuke site and suspending any testing with ballistic missiles.

    And some people seem to think that the Iranians just don't have what it takes to join in with the Big Boys.
     
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    If a frog had wings it wouldn't hit its ass when it hops.

    So quit all that whining about BO the peep.
     
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    Oh, you believe everything Kim says ? Well you beleive Trump so that figures.
     
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    Just because you leftists don't have the brain capacity to see the agreement was to take a step back from the brink of war.

    Isn't any conservatives fault.....blame your creation that built in those design flaws and limitations your kind was endowed with.
     
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    Did you forget the Western Press Lil Kim invited into his country so they could take pics of him closing down his one nuke site?

    Has Lil Kim popped off any ballistics for the last 3 months?

    Just admit the left doesn't have the comprehension to understand how Trump Played Lil Kim.
     
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    So, what does the agreement say and where are the inspectors ? He has a history of lie, decete and failures. This was an infomercial. The Iran deal actually had real live people placed in Iran to inspect. You can bet somewhere on the document it says that Kim agrees that Trump should have won by 3 million votes.
     
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    Was press free to travel anywhere on the site and have a nuclear engine verify that was done ? No. But you beleive Kim, a dictatorial muderous thug.
    We close down nuclear sites when they become obsolete and open another one elsewhere too. They become brittle and unsafe with age. Trump shows the press the lobby of hotels but omits the bankruptcy notices he receives.
     
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    Fact, Obama released millions to Iran.
    Fact, Obama gave access to US banking.

    Secret Obama-Era Permit Let Iran Convert Funds to Dollars
     
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    Yeah, working towards peace, such a no-no for the new war hawks that were just recently yapping that Trump would start a nuclear war with NK. Their schizophrenia is showing.
     
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    Do you understand Trump laid the Foundation in the first talk? Laying the foundation is getting the N Korean leader to agree and get his signature for that agreement.

    Next step in the process is to build upon the foundation. Which that means in the next talks. All those details will be brought forth.

    The Iran deal was nothing more than a sham and gave the Iranians a timetable to break out. There were no snap inspection and no inspections of any Iranian Military facilities.

    The Only thing we know is Lil Kim wanted to Meet with who is in charge with the US. Which means.....he knew it wasn't any Democrat that he could trick like his father did.
     

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