Trump insinuates using rifles to fire on Liz Cheney

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Tell me when Lizzie ever voted against any war any where.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At least get your facts right.
     
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    She is only one of many. Why should she be singled out?

    Liz Cheney served as a U.S. Representative from Wyoming from 2017 to 2023, voted in favor of U.S. maintaining U.S. military involvement in Syria and Afghanistan. During her time in Congress, there were NO new wars requiring authorization, so she did not cast any votes for initiating new wars.
     
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    Wrong, please abstain from posting crap.
     
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    And brandon had time to change any part of that withdrawal, didn't he?

    He didn't have a thing to say about it until he messed it up and needed a scapegoat so he did what liberals always do: blame trump.

    Hypocrisy you say? Has either brandon or Harris reached out to those 13 service members he got killed?
    No?
    Imagine that.
     
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    Shutcie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But what makes Kamala the BEST democratic candidate?
    Forget trump.
    Why Harris?
    Why not Schumer or Pelosi or clinton?
    Why harris?
     
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    Some Democrats are scum and thugs. The very radical ones are the enemy within. They are Soros funded Marxists and their candidate is a Marxist.
     
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    When did Trump say she should be "executed"?
     
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    He was trying to make an intellectually valid point but liberals took it literally.
     
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    Shutcie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Finally! We have an attempt to justify Harris besides
    "Harris is the first woman, first Black person, and first South Asian to"
    OR
    "Cause trump".

    Now, if only we weren't reminded by Harris herself that she'll be continuing Brandon's policies. Wonder I'd she'll want Brandon's 10%?

    In any case, thanks Patricio for being brave enough to at least take a stab at answering the question.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    As I said, out of the two candidates running for President Trump is the one least likely to get me involved in some crap that I have no business being involved in. All that was stated here is sort of the premise of this thread in the first place and it basically just boils down to two different views of America's role in the world. For example if this Russia/Ukraine conflict is of such dire consequence to the WORLD then the WORLD needs to pony up massively and ensure that it doesn't spiral out of control. Same with all of these other hot zones that the world expects America to play Team America World Police over. Again it boils down to the very premise of this thread, I'm the one who actually fights, not the folks who make the decisions. So if some foreign country's defense is of such great importance to you to where you feel it necessary to defend them at all costs up to and including sending ME to go fight and possibly die over there then yeah you need to come too.

    If Europe is so terrified of Russian expansion and it's as dire of a threat as being portrayed then the entirety of the EU needs to come together and drain their coffers and support Ukraine at all costs. And if it gets really dire to the point where Ukraine needs more troops on the ground then Europe needs to mobilize their respective armies and go fight. EUROPE. Not America, Ukraine is in EUROPE, if Putin is supposedly going to march to the sea then guess who is in his path? EUROPE. I live in America, I fight for America, I really am willing to die for America. I'm not too keen on dying for Europe. Call me when Mexico invades Texas.

    If folks in America care so much about Ukraine's defense for whatever reason then you are more than welcome to volunteer and go fight to defend it. You actually can, there's a process.
     
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  13. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Quit dreaming, there's nothing to debunk, he said those things, he's deranged and unfit.

    There is no counter argument, so quit imagining things.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    A stab? her resume is better than anyone else's resume.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, unlike Trump, she didn't crime her way to the top, nor cheat her sibling's estate out of their inheritance, nor did she kick a nephew who has epilepsy off the family health plan, nor did she inherit daddy's big bucks, nor did she screw thousands out of millions for fake university scam, nor did she use eminent domain to try and kick a widow out of her house in order to build a limo garage for a casino, nor did she bilk the US taxpayers out of $16 million for entourage stays at hotels belonging to her, nor did she facilitate Russian mobsters to launder millions in cash over a 3 decade period, nor did she fawn over dictators and envy them with 'love letters', nor did she embezzle funds from a charity for personal use, nor was she ever sued by the state for discrimination, nor does she, unlike Trump, talk like a moron.

    FYI, yes she passed the CA bar exam on the second try, the hardest exam in the nation but you forgot to mention that only 50% pass on the first try. Nor did she 'sleep her way to the top', which is cheap shot bullshit. You forgot to mention that her resume is par none.
     
  16. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's rich given that he ordered a military op his first week in office, well before he took his training wheels off, which resulted in a Navy Seal getting killed. Later that year, 4 more servicemen killed via ops he approved of.

    ****ing hypocrite Trump is, and next time, do your homework.
     
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    AW sorry no one not up to there eyeballs in the DC trough believes your Trumped up fiction.
     
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    Please tell me what operation that was?
     
  19. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    That’s rich, given that Trump, for years, paid lip service to getting the US out of Afghanistan, that's rich given that Donald Trump didn’t have the courage to get the U.S. out of Afghanistan himself. He didn’t just kick the can down the road -- he kicked a grenade down the road and handed it to Biden without a pin. Let’s talk about what really went down.

    Trump struck the infamous Doha Agreement in February 2020, a deal with the Taliban that was practically signed in invisible ink, because what it promised was all but invisible: we’d leave Afghanistan by May 1, 2021, and in return, the Taliban would “promise” to behave and negotiate with the Afghan government. Except here’s the kicker: he cut the Afghan government out of the deal entirely. Trump went behind the Afghan government’s back, undermining it in front of the world, legitimizing the Taliban and giving them a direct line to negotiate with America (even invited them to Camp David! ) while their own government was left in the dust. The very government that was supposed to keep the country running after we left? He undercut them so badly they may as well have been signing their own death warrant.

    And then, Trump started pulling U.S. troops out of Afghanistan like he was counting beads on a rosary, so fast and reckless that he left Biden with a skeletal force of just 2,500 troops when he entered office. From 13,000 to 2,500 in less than a year. Biden had a choice: go back in with even more troops or try to salvage a withdrawal with the bare bones Trump left him. And let’s not forget that Trump forced the Afghan government to release 5,000 Taliban prisoners as part of his “deal.” Yeah, because there’s nothing that says “stabilize Afghanistan” like letting thousands of insurgents loose. Unsurprisingly, many of these guys went right back to the Taliban, adding fuel to a fire Trump had practically gift-wrapped for them.

    Trump’s rush to leave also meant he left America’s NATO allies scrambling to keep up with a plan they weren’t even consulted on. He left our allies in the dark. They had troops there, too; they were part of the mission. But Trump acted like he was running his own solo operation, abandoning them to the whims of his spur-of-the-moment diplomacy. And with Afghan forces struggling, Trump still wasn’t satisfied -- he undermined them further by freezing critical funds and withholding support that could’ve helped them stay afloat.

    By the time Biden took over, Trump had left him with a crumbling structure, no plans for contingencies, no realistic strategy for an evacuation, and a Taliban itching for power, strengthened by the very prisoners Trump freed. Biden faced the fallout of a destabilized Afghanistan that was Trump’s doing every step of the way

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States–Taliban_deal
    https://bing.com/search?q=Doha+Agreement+2020
    https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–2021_U.S._troop_withdrawal_from_Afghanistan
    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...romney-accurately-says-trump-administration-w
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53775035
    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_183086.htm


    Trump's incompetence on Covid increased the death trajectory far worse than it would have been under competent leadership. He has blood on his hands. He hypes incessantly. For example, 'I got the vaccine accelerated". No, that vaccine was 10 years in development, and during the final stage, ALL presidents would have done the same thing. This is typical of Trump, he is a *********** and is NEVER honest.

    Trump is a buffoon, just listen to him. You can't hear it, see it?
     
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    Yemen raid and the Niger Ambush.

    5 servicemen dead.

    I wouldn't fault a president for making tough decisions, sending men and women into harms way is their job, and no one's survival is guaranteed, but his first week in office a Navy Seal gets killed because of an Op he authorized? If it were me, I'd get the hang of the office a little more time before doing something like that, but since he ragged on Cheney who was never president, who never ordered anyone into harms way, who was one of many bamboozled by Bush and Colin Powell for 'weapons of mass destruction'" Trump, with 5 deferments, who decisions led to servicemen getting killed, is a hypocrite for his comment, let alone the brazen violent imagery which is totally inappropriate for a President.

    How can you defend this buffoon?
     
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    What makes Trump/Vance the best candidates for Republicans?
     
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    Sorry, it's all true, I can substantiate each, if you want.
     
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    Neither Pelosi nor Schumer want to be prez. Harris was VP for 8 years, please her years of dedicated civic minded service makes her eminently qualified.
     
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    Trump/Vance will promote our fossil fuel industry that Biden shut down which has caused high inflation and interest rates for one. That will help fix our economy and starve Putin and Iran of petro dollars which will weaken their war footing.
     
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    Harris has been VP for less than 4 years. She has done exactly nothing in that position.
     
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