Trump insinuates using rifles to fire on Liz Cheney

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  1. kriman

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    Nough said.
     
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    My last assignment in the Air Force was to the 21st Air Force Operations Center. The 21st Air Force manages all military airlift in the Eastern US. I have set through numerous planning meetings. The military would never agree with how Biden pulled out of Afghanistan.

    The most frightening part was all those Afghans running ahead and under the aircraft. The military would never plan it that way. If nothing else one loose hat could get sucked into an engine and destroy it.
     
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    Yes. The US would have to fly in extra air support just to protect the 2500 troops if any conflict arose. It was air support that wasn't provided throughout the entire evacuation that, if present, could've saved lives. It was poor military planning.
     
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    You are making stuff up. No where in there does it include how I asked the question.

    You are just about the last person on earth that I would ask advice about anything.
     
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    Yeah, what we saw with our own eyes didn't really happen and, if it did, it's Trump's fault somehow.
     
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    The Taliban failed to adhere to the Doha agreement and Biden did nothing about it and decided to go with the planned withdrawal anyway, with no agreed upon safeguards. Stupidity at best, treason at worst, impeachment at least.
     
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  7. Patricio Da Silva

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    You're the last person I would trust for what you see in your eyes.

    Well there's a lot more to the truth than often meets the eye

    you can take that to the bank
     
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    BWAHAHAHAHA!
    and tell us, who was the commander in chief when those last 13 service members died??
    We're any of those military planners fired for their mistakes?
    Did brandon or Harris ever reach out to those last 13 service members families?
    Your post is a pathetic attempt to forgive Brandon's incompetence and his callous attitude towards the sacrifices made.
     
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    Biden failed to see, or ignored, that the Taliban failed to adhere to Doha and went forward with the evacuation of the military. He left civilians to twist in the wind.
     
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    You didn't read the reccomendations, did you? The part about a measured withdrawal? The part about prioritizing withdrawal of our allies? The part about not withdrawing until the situation was stable?

    Pretty pathetic reply on your part, patricio.
     
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    Why don't you stick to the argument I made not what others have made and turn my OP into a strawman?
     
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    Your problem is that only someone suffering from TDS would so grossly twist and intentionally misinterpret trumps speech like you're trying to sell.
     
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    Oh, let’s get something clear: the terms of that deal, the one signed in Doha under Trump’s administration, weren’t just flawed -- they were essentially a Taliban free pass. That so-called “peace agreement” was nothing more than a rushed exit strategy to get U.S. troops out, with a timeline that wasn’t realistic. It’s like signing a contract with a lion and hoping it’ll go vegan. There were minimal conditions on the Taliban’s behavior, no accountability measures, and no fallback if they started reneging. And guess what? The Taliban did exactly what anyone with a shred of foresight would expect: they broke every promise as soon as it suited them. Now, to paint Biden as some bystander letting Americans “twist in the wind” is selective amnesia. The Afghan government was collapsing faster than anyone predicted, yes, but Biden inherited a hard deadline, courtesy of Trump’s Doha deal, and a military already in a withdrawal pattern. Biden’s options were limited by that deal. He could either pull out and stick to Trump’s plan -- or stay indefinitely, risking escalated conflict and an unending cycle of deployments. So, yes, the evacuation was messy -- there’s no sugarcoating that. But Biden’s administration managed to pull off one of the largest airlifts in history, rescuing over 120,000 people in a chaotic, rapidly deteriorating situation. To call that abandoning Americans? That’s not just incorrect; it’s a misrepresentation of an incredibly complex, high-stakes operation. We can argue about how it all went down, but framing this as Biden’s personal failing ignores the tangled history and the colossal mess he was handed in the first place.

    Trump paid lip service to getting us out of Afghanistan for 4 years in the end lacked the courage to do it himself and he Kicked the Can to Biden. Trump is a coward
     
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    I didn't twist anything I quoted him word for word those words would not be uttered by any candidate for president ever under any circumstances it proves he's unfit for office.

    At the minimum while putting it all in context it proves He's a hypocrite because he got five draft deferments and he's ordered military Ops in which servicemen died He's a hypocrite at the very minimum not only that on a Howard Stern interview he expressed support for the Iraq War

    Trump's a Monumental colossal megalithic hypocrite
     
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    He broke the agreement when he changed the date of withdrawal...
     
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    @Patricio Da Silva

    "Oh, let’s get something clear: the terms of that deal, the one signed in Doha under Trump’s administration, weren’t just flawed"

    Oh, let’s get something clear: the withdraw under the Biden administration, weren’t just flawed... it was a catastrophe... Biden should be tried for treason for aiding and abetting our enemies by surrendering uncontested 80 billion dollars in military equipment and an airbase Trump never intended to give to our enemies....
     
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    @Patricio Da Silva

    "Oh, let’s get something clear: the terms of that deal, the one signed in Doha under Trump’s administration, weren’t just flawed"

    Oh, let’s get something clear: the withdraw under the Biden administration, weren’t just flawed... it was a catastrophe..

    Trump did not get 13 Americans killed at Kabul, Joe Biden did..

    Aug 27, 2021
    yep it happened

    ‘Thousands’ of ISIS-K terrorists released from Bagram after Biden abandoned it, Pentagon says
    https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...agram-after-biden-abandoned-it-pentagon-says/

    1000's of ISIS Prisoners released

     
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    @Patricio Da Silva

    "Oh, let’s get something clear: the terms of that deal, the one signed in Doha under Trump’s administration, weren’t just flawed"

    Oh, let’s get something clear: the withdraw under the Biden administration, weren’t just flawed... it was a catastrophe..

    Biden should be tried for treason..

    Biden got 13 Americans killed, not Trump. Biden surrendered to the Taliban, not Trump... Biden surrendered Bagram and 4500 terrorist were released back into the world from the two prisons there, not Trump... one of them put on a suicide vest and murdered 13 Americans, 176 innocent civilians... oh, don't forget Biden the botched drone strike killing a family with children, not Trump

    This is the screwup of Biden, not Trump.. you helped pay for it.
    August 16, 2024

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    Are we supposed to vote for Trump because someone took a shot at him?
    Your support for a crook is annoying.
     
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    @Patricio Da Silva

    "Oh, let’s get something clear: the terms of that deal, the one signed in Doha under Trump’s administration, weren’t just flawed"

    Oh, let’s get something clear: the withdraw under the Biden administration, weren’t just flawed... it was a catastrophe..

    Joe Biden disserted Bagram airbase and left our enemy $80 billion in military.... Biden is responsible for the release of 4500 terrorist at the two prisons at Bagram airbase, where one put on a suicide vest and killed 13 American military personal.... then the topping on the cake he killed this family...

    Ask these children who killed them.... Biden or Trump... not only is Joe responsible for the murderers, he put the US as the number state sponsor of terror in the world...

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/09/11/02/47772911-0-image-a-27_1631324120352.jpg
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    The fact that the government tried to turn away and let the gunman have his way until forced to react shows the Deep State wants Trump gone. He is the only one standing in front of them and complete control.
     
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    @Patricio Da Silva

    "Oh, let’s get something clear: the terms of that deal, the one signed in Doha under Trump’s administration, weren’t just flawed"

    Oh, let’s get something clear: the withdraw under the Biden administration, weren’t just flawed... it was a catastrophe..

    Yep Biden had everything to do with it.... one of those released prisoners went back to Kabul to kill 13 Americans and 176 innocent civilians..

    Bagram Air Base Surrendered to Taliban, Imprisoned Terrorists Released
    https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021...ase-surrendered-to-taliban-as-kabul-is-taken/

    https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/bagram-airfield-looted-as-us-forces-leave-afghan-base/

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/24/how-prisoner-releases-bolstered-the-taliban-to-victory/

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    Add Harris built her career on activities that rhyme with duck.
     
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    @Patricio Da Silva

    "Oh, let’s get something clear: the terms of that deal, the one signed in Doha under Trump’s administration, weren’t just flawed"

    Oh, let’s get something clear: the withdraw under the Biden administration, weren’t just flawed... it was a catastrophe...
    Biden botched the Afghanistan withdraw.... he was president... the buck stops with him...

    Trump did not surrender the Bagram airbase, Biden did, where the terrorist was released from the two prisons there that put on a suicide vest to kill 13 Americans and 176 innocent civilians... oh... and don't overlook the $80 Billion in military equipment..... hhhmmmm... like in aiding and abetting our enemies, where have I heard that before?

    ask this guy...
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